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Sadly Apple is in the lead with regards to having this tactic. Rarely do they add functionality to older devices once new models launch.

Apple should Really take a page from Google here. Over the years Pixel devices get features added more often than not when new phones are released! What's sad is, with the computational advantages of Apple Silicon, Apple devices often have the power to do the same thing, but Apple refuses.
 
Sadly Apple is in the lead with regards to having this tactic. Rarely do they add functionality to older devices once new models launch.

Apple should Really take a page from Google here. Over the years Pixel devices get features added more often than not when new phones are released! What's sad is, with the computational advantages of Apple Silicon, Apple devices often have the power to do the same thing, but Apple refuses.
That's not really true, though. There are even examples of Apple devices having dormant hardware that are enabled in future updates with nobody even knowing the feature was possible.
 
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this is one of the few new features i cared about, if they had given it to the regular 16 i'd have maybe considered getting one. idk if it's got to do with the different mic setup or what but it's ultra disappointing
 
That's not really true, though. There are even examples of Apple devices having dormant hardware that are enabled in future updates with nobody even knowing the feature was possible.
I didn't say never, I said rarely.

Typically the dormant hardware is unlocked during the first year the device is on the market as a later feature release. It is more uncommon for them to unlock or add functionality after the next product cycle. Google however quite commonly brings features down as feature releases 2+ years after the device was released.
 
I think it has more to do with the microphone array than the processing, but I could be wrong.
This probably the most simple justification on Apple's end. Users who have recorded music before would know you can play layers of tracks in a headset and record another separate layer to stitch into it without introducing playback oddities to the new track. Ex. metronome in your ears to record a drum track, listening to the other instruments to record vocals over them, etc. I don't see why this wouldn't be possible on any existing devices if the user wore AirPods or a wired headset via a USB-C adapter.
 
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I think it has more to do with the microphone array than the processing, but I could be wrong.
you're correct, looking at the locations it seems to be exactly what's required to cancel out noise from the device while recording with another microphone a couple millimetres away.
 
Disappointing to hear that it will be limited to the latest iPhones. Should have at least made it available on 15 Pro and Pro Max
 
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Wow, they found something useful for their AI to do and they relegated it to the most niche, expensive device
 
You're likely exactly right. At least one of those microphones is dedicated to cancelling the original recording.

I’m calling BS on that. Logic already has features built in to separate instruments from vocals. A special microphone is not required
 
Did the definition of multitrack recording just get changed?
Talking over background noise is not multitrack recording, is it?
Yeah, 1 track is single track recording. More than one track is multitrack recording. I guess they could say duo track, but that’s not a widely used term.
 
I wonder though, how many layers one can make. Also I've never used Voice Memos for music. I still use Music Memos but disappointingly it no longer receives support and Apple has directed users to transition to Voice Memos. I wonder if any of Music Memos features are being incorporated into Voice Memos. Really hope so.
Music Memos still works well. Doesn’t play the backing tracks anymore, but still works, even with the 18.1 beta. :) I was hoping the features would end up in GarageBand or Logic Pro.
 
Sadly Apple is in the lead with regards to having this tactic. Rarely do they add functionality to older devices once new models launch.

Apple should Really take a page from Google here. Over the years Pixel devices get features added more often than not when new phones are released! What's sad is, with the computational advantages of Apple Silicon, Apple devices often have the power to do the same thing, but Apple refuses.
Every year older Apple devices get loads of new features with the OS update. Usually there are only a very limited number of features limited to the newest devices.
 
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This probably the most simple justification on Apple's end. Users who have recorded music before would know you can play layers of tracks in a headset and record another separate layer to stitch into it without introducing playback oddities to the new track. Ex. metronome in your ears to record a drum track, listening to the other instruments to record vocals over them, etc. I don't see why this wouldn't be possible on any existing devices if the user wore AirPods or a wired headset via a USB-C adapter.
You sure you can’t do multi layer recording with headphones in the non Pros? I thought it was only computational background noise removal that was limited to the Pros.
 
Music Memos still works well. Doesn’t play the backing tracks anymore, but still works, even with the 18.1 beta. :) I was hoping the features would end up in GarageBand or Logic Pro.
Haven’t use Logic but GarageBand takes too long to get into a recording. That’s what I like about Music Memos, you just launch it and hit record.

Ah, no wonder the backing tracks don’t work anymore, I thought it was just me.
 
Haven’t use Logic but GarageBand takes too long to get into a recording. That’s what I like about Music Memos, you just launch it and hit record.

Ah, no wonder the backing tracks don’t work anymore, I thought it was just me.
There was actually a change they made to GarageBand a little after they discontinued Music Memos, and I thought it was a nod towards that situation. When you launch GarageBand on an iPhone, one of the icons at the top of the screen is a microphone with a plus symbol. Tapping that creates a new project with a Microphone track created, and all you have to do is hit the red button to start recording. If you’ve already set your recording type to clean, then it just uses what you last said it for as the default.
 
There was actually a change they made to GarageBand a little after they discontinued Music Memos, and I thought it was a nod towards that situation. When you launch GarageBand on an iPhone, one of the icons at the top of the screen is a microphone with a plus symbol. Tapping that creates a new project with a Microphone track created, and all you have to do is hit the red button to start recording. If you’ve already set your recording type to clean, then it just uses what you last said it for as the default.
Never noticed that. I just tried it out and the extra button press is forgivable, but it looks like you still have to set the tempo and key before you start recording, right? Music memos detects it automatically which I find crucial for quick recording.
 
I'm still trying to figure out how they're going to manage this on a device you can't plug headphones directly into, and Bluetooth has too much latency. It's aimed at a different set of users to GarageBand who will plug their phone into an interface if they'e at all serious about MTR.
 
Never noticed that. I just tried it out and the extra button press is forgivable, but it looks like you still have to set the tempo and key before you start recording, right? Music memos detects it automatically which I find crucial for quick recording.
OH! Yes, you are correct. Tempo always defaults to 110 and doesn’t do the same thing the “recording style” choice does. Would be cool if it did, though. I’m usually recording melody ideas and as I don’t know what scale I’m humming (music theory dunce), so, I never set the key. :)

One thing I thought was wild was that Music Memos records the tempo you’re playing at as you play. And if you change up the tempo, it changes up what it captures. If you take a recording from Music Memos and put it in GarageBand, GarageBand adheres to the variable tempo that’s captured in Music Memos! I assumed that, with that type of compatibility already built in, getting it in GarageBand was the next logical step, but I guess not. Or at least not yet. :)
 
I'm still trying to figure out how they're going to manage this on a device you can't plug headphones directly into, and Bluetooth has too much latency. It's aimed at a different set of users to GarageBand who will plug their phone into an interface if they'e at all serious about MTR.
The phone has mics and speakers, the speakers play music, while the mics record the voice being sung with the music, and then they filter what’s playing from what’s being recorded so you end up with a vocal track on top of the music. No Bluetooth required.
 
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