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Thats not what the proposed law states. Did you even read it?
Its also a bill, not a law. Its being proposed.

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Apple already does this. It is very reasonable to replace the battery. You open up the phone, replace it, and close the phone. Many third party places do this already.
 
While I understand the desire, I also predict  will quit selling iPhones in WA if this passes. I doubt they will offer a small subset of replaceable battery iPhones, iPads, MBP, apple watches, etc. Unless they make a product like that across all the lines and I don't think it will be worth it to them.
Good thing folks can still order online. :)
 
While I understand the desire, I also predict  will quit selling iPhones in WA if this passes. I doubt they will offer a small subset of replaceable battery iPhones, iPads, MBP, apple watches, etc. Unless they make a product like that across all the lines and I don't think it will be worth it to them.
Good thing folks can still order online. :)

Its a clickbait title. The bill does not say that at all. The only outlier is the Apple Watch.
 
Dang guess I shouldn't just believe everything people say lol
Yep. Calling it a law is completely false, there is a strong chance it never even gets out of committee and to a vote. But even if it did, Apple is already complying with it (minus the Apple Watch, except that may be an exception because opening the watch would void warranty).
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Depends on how you read it AND what the final bill looks like if it passes.
Thats playing the what-if game. We have the proposed texted posted above. The proposed text of a bill, not a law, does not mention replaceable batteries are required. It just says they need to be easily repairable.

This entire thread is completely disingenuous as its based on a clickbait, false title.
 
Yep. Calling it a law is completely false, there is a strong chance it never even gets out of committee and to a vote. But even if it did, Apple is already complying with it (minus the Apple Watch, except that may be an exception because opening the watch would void warranty).
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Thats playing the what-if game. We have the proposed texted posted above. The proposed text of a bill, not a law, does not mention replaceable batteries are required. It just says they need to be easily repairable.

This entire thread is completely disingenuous as its based on a clickbait, false title.
But the bill does talk about batteries that are affixed in a manner making it difficult to remove. Compared to all my remotes and my wifes old Moto flip phone, the iPhone etal are difficult to repair.
Remember, we are talking policticians here who are trying to make their local populace happy. I still don't think  is going to change their design based on what WA state wants, assuming this bill gets passed.
 
But the bill does talk about batteries that are affixed in a manner making it difficult to remove. Compared to all my remotes and my wifes old Moto flip phone, the iPhone etal are difficult to repair.
Remember, we are talking policticians here who are trying to make their local populace happy. I still don't think  is going to change their design based on what WA state wants, assuming this bill gets passed.

But it doesn’t say the for the average consumer, it says for repair provider. That’s the key point and that’s why I agree that Apple would not alter the design. The only issue is the Apple Watch, but for warranty reasons and structural integrity reasons, I bet that would be an exception.
 
But it doesn’t say the for the average consumer, it says for repair provider. That’s the key point and that’s why I agree that Apple would not alter the design. The only issue is the Apple Watch, but for warranty reasons and structural integrity reasons, I bet that would be an exception.
You might be right, then again. It's the independent repair providers bitching about the iPhone battery replacements that finally gave this bill the oomph to get proposed. Anything can happen.
 
Story came from Apple "News" app, my bad, it is not a law but a proposed "Bill". I agree that I don't think it stands a chance, Apple is not going to change design to suit states that try a dictate how a rechargeable battery installed. The rechargeable battery in my DustBuster is getting weak, but no replacement is available. There are those who think anybody should be able to repair iPhones, and a lot of non-Apple guys do, including my son, but I would hate to see Apple change the design to make it easier for unskilled techs to work on them.
 
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This would effect all sorts of other devices - laptops, many other portable devices, etc.
 
Being “removable” does not mean it should be removable by ANYONE. I would argue this bill is still vague and it does not cover the exact definition of “removable”. Surely, if battery is designed in a way that requires specific devices (some sort of advanced machinery or so) to remove, this bill may apply. But for most devices, being “non-removable” only means the battery cannot be removed so easily that popping out a piece of plastic, swap the battery and voila!

In short, this bill needs to explicitly tell everyone how they define “removable”, even though I don’t think even Apple devices could be categorized as “devices with hard to remove battery”.
 
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