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Jesus said:
technically if you recite any random 83 431 digit long stream of numbers, it will be a section of pi as pi is infinite and therefore would somewhere is its infinite length contain that stream of 83 431 numbers.
You are correct. One side effect is that your credit card number is within the digits of pi, so we can all buy new Macs and charge them to you! I just ordered mine that way. Thanks!
 
Jesus said:
technically if you recite any random 83 431 digit long stream of numbers, it will be a section of pi as pi is infinite and therefore would somewhere is its infinite length contain that stream of 83 431 numbers.

just a thought



Jesus

Jesus, that's one hell of a profound concept! :D

Seriously, I found that a very interesting perspective on this subject, thanks for that. This story really does blow my mind... It really, truly does not seem humanly possible! Surely there is some limit to the human mind?

(Well, actually, I guess there is.... 83,431 to be exact!)

ND
 
Nanda Devi said:
Jesus, that's one hell of a profound concept! :D

Seriously, I found that a very interesting perspective on this subject, thanks for that. This story really does blow my mind... It really, truly does not seem humanly possible! Surely there is some limit to the human mind?

(Well, actually, I guess there is.... 83,431 to be exact!)

ND

think of a system to convert digits to letters/symbols (any will do).
by that system, the entire and precise content of this thread is exactly replicated somewhere in pi, including the NEXT post!
 
Don't panic said:
think of a system to convert digits to letters/symbols (any will do).
by that system, the entire and precise content of this thread is exactly replicated somewhere in pi, including the NEXT post!
3.
1415926535 8979323846 2643383279 5028841971 6939937510 5820974944 5923078164 0628620899 8628034825 3421170679 8214808651 3282306647 0938446095 5058223172 5359408128 4811174502 8410270193 8521105559 6446229489 5493038196 4428810975 6659334461 2847564823 3786783165 2712019091 4564856692 3460348610 4543266482 1339360726 0249141273 7245870066 0631558817 4881520920 9628292540 9171536436 7892590360 0113305305 4882046652 1384146951 9415116094 3305727036 5759591953 0921861173 8193261179 3105118548 0744623799 6274956735 1885752724 8912279381 8301194912

Hey, you're right! :)

Seriously, it is true that any finite sequence, encoded into digits, will occur in pi. More precisely, you can show that the chances of such a sequence NOT occurring in pi is arbitrarily small for a suitably large number of digits, under the assumption that digits of pi can have no permanently repeating patterns and are therefore "random". And in math terms showing that the probability is arbitrarily small equates to certainty.
 
Two pi facts:

1. The seven digits of pi starting at digit number 10,241,771 are 1573596, which happens to be the number of this post.

2. In a paper titled "On The Rapid Computation of Various Polylogarithmic Constants" in the Volume 66 Number 218 (1997) issue of Mathematics of Computation, David Bailey, Peter Borwein, and Simon Plouffe presented an algorithm for computing digits of certain polylogarithmic constants, including pi and log 2, without having to first compute the preceding digits. Using it, the quadrillionth binary digit of pi was computed. But I don't have a copy of the article so I can't tell you if it came out to a zero or a one! I'll guess zero.
 
Doctor Q said:
2. In a paper titled "On The Rapid Computation of Various Polylogarithmic Constants" in the Volume 66 Number 218 (1997) issue of Mathematics of Computation, David Bailey, Peter Borwein, and Simon Plouffe presented an algorithm for computing digits of certain polylogarithmic constants, including pi and log 2, without having to first compute the preceding digits. Using it, the quadrillionth binary digit of pi was computed. But I don't have a copy of the article so I can't tell you if it came out to a zero or a one! I'll guess zero.

This was a surprising result at the time - the slight snag for those of us who normally use base 10 is that this algorithm only works in bases that are a power of 2, (binary, octal, hex etc). In base 10 you still have to work out all the preceding digits.
 
i think this is the deepest macrumors thread ever, it has turned from an old Japanese guy reciting Pi into discussing the nature of infinite numbers. next, start a thread discussing Phi and the implementation of the fibonacci sequence in carbon based life and cosmic formations. let the philosophy begin.

Jesus
 
So what did he say after the last number...

"screw it, I forget the rest"

Seriously, could he be generating the numbers by calculating them in his head instead of memorizing them? Not that 22/7 would work but it just seems almost easier than memorizing 83,000+ digits.
 
Mebsat said:
So what did he say after the last number...

"screw it, I forget the rest"

Seriously, could he be generating the numbers by calculating them in his head instead of memorizing them? Not that 22/7 would work but it just seems almost easier than memorizing 83,000+ digits.

That's what I want to know.

Is he just reciting memorized numbers?
or is he calculating on the fly?

Either one is impressive :)
 
83,431 digits, wow.


The only part I know of pi is 3.14, and thats only because 314 is one of the 2 area codes in St. Louis and my cell phone number's area code
 
All you need to do is memorize an 83,432-word series of sentences where the number of letters in each word tells you the next digit of pi. Then you don't need to remember digits, only paragraphs of text, and you'll have the new world record!

Example:

Code:
How I want a drink, alcoholic of course, after the heavy
 3  1  4   1   5        9     2     6      5    3    5 
lectures involving quantum mechanics.  All of thy geometry,
   8         9        7        9        3  2   3     8
Herr Planck, is fairly hard.
 4     6     2    6     4
 
Another important pi fact:

In the decimal expansion of pi, the digits from position 176,452 thru position 176,457 are as follows:
3 1 4 1 5 9​
They look kinda familiar, don't they?
 
Reminds me of a Simpson's quote:

Apu: I can recite pi to 40 000 places. The last digit is 1.
Homer: Mmm... pie.

Maybe Akira just recited the eighty three thousand four hundred and thirty first digit and scrapped the rest.
 
Hey, I don't know if this link has been posted anywhere else in the MR forums, but it's relevant to this conversation.

Link

I think it's pretty neat.
 
MacFan782040 said:
to be honest.. all i know is 3.14

thats it. hats off to this guy

As I put it earlier "How I wish I could calculate pi" where how has 3 letters, I has 1, wish has 4 etc. giving pi to 6decimal places, more than enough for most people.

Of course you could just guess pi to 6decimal places, the odds of getting it right would be 4,782,969 to 1 which is better than trying to guess the 7lotto numbers at around 14,000,000 to 1.
 
It's also interesting to note that starting as early as decimal place 762, you get 6 consecutive 9s. Whoever found that the first time probably thought that pi was going to be a rational number after all, only then to find that place 768 is an 8. :p
 
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