From an end-user's standpoint - yes. Different ways of accomplishing the same animations, games and web page interactions through browser plug-ins.
Yes, I did. Exactly so that people like you wouldn't accuse me of commenting on an OS without installing it.
I am surely raging, but this doesn't render my previous point invalid. Client-side Java IS, indeed, useless, potentially harmful and a deadweight for ordinary users.
+1Golly. Now I understand! Your eloquence and command of argument and language has convinced me. From now on, I'm sure those of us with Java experience infesting these Java threads will be sure to leave it to you to lead the way.
macbook-pro:~ tom$ java -version
java version "1.7.0_06"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_06-b24)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.2-b09, mixed mode)macbook-pro:~ tom$ java -version
java version "1.6.0_33"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_33-b03-424-11M3720)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.8-b03-424, mixed mode)
Well, it kind of does since you are not addressing my objections. Every application is useless, potentially harmful and a deadweight for those that do not need it, so that argument does not do anything to support the "Java is crap" claim. Combine that with some unsubstantiated claims and making stuff up, and you are not off to a very convincing argument. You are just raging without any real content, so of course you won't feel proven wrong no matter what.
Yes. The problem comes from being able to run Java programs from an unscrupulous website, not from running legitimate programs.
If you have Java disabled in your browsers, and don't run random downloaded stuff, the general exposure from having Java installed is quite low.Forgetting your opinion of either of both of those pieces of software, what's my general exposure? Should I be looking at the alternatives to these apps due to the fact that they're written in this language?
I could make the statement that Lawyers (say) are, "indeed, useless, potentially harmful and a deadweight for ordinary society." We could go back and forth all day, you telling me how useful a lawyer can be, me telling you how useless they are. While amusing and diverting, it isn't really worth discussing or "proving". Like my little lawyer joke, you're making a blanket statement. You've tightened up your wording over time, which is good to see, but really, going to the effort to "prove" against a broad statement isn't worth anyone's time, I would think.
Actually, Java is the ORIGINAL Flash. Applets were on their way to making epileptic seizure causing ads and consuming all known computing and battery resources well before Flash was unleashed to an unaware populous.So Java is the new Flash
You are the only one making use of fallacious and uninformed arguments here. Java is not and has never been an "app" per se. It's, among other things, a runtime environment/Internet plug-in replete with security vulnerabilities and whose negative reputation on Macs is second only to Flash.
My sole purpose here is to tell ordinary users out there that, barring some very specific uses, they do NOT need to install Java or worry about its multiple security holes. Once more: for the end user, Java is crap, a deadweight, a useless bloat.You are acting like Java is being forced down your (and everyone's) throat, when Java is not even installed per default anymore. We are gradually approaching a situation where only those that have had a need for it have it installed. You should be happy!
Too bad you do; in any case, I am glad you just run "local", offline software. No need to worry about the plethora of security holes over the Internet wild west.
Or, while you're in your Utilities folder, instead of doing that in Terminal, simply open Java Preferences and see.
