News.app for macOS

Discussion in 'macOS Sierra (10.12)' started by TrenttonY, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. TrenttonY macrumors 6502a

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    Is anyone amazed that no News.app was released in macOS Sierra? I thought they would be pushing it like crazy on macOS like they are doing on iOS. I'm really tired of having to use news site in Safari, as almost all of them have terrible UI's.
     
  2. gsmornot macrumors 68030

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    I was looking for News too. Still using other services on my Mac's.
     
  3. TrenttonY thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    If they didn't spend all of their time on destroying the Apple Music.app, they could have had time to make the app. LOL
     
  4. KALLT macrumors 601

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    It is really unfortunate that Apple pushes Continuity/iCloud so heavily, but leaves such glaring omissions.
     
  5. TrenttonY thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I never understood why they have a tick-tock method when it comes to iOS and macOS. Take Notification Center for an example, released in 2011 for iOS, but in 2012 for macOS. They have all the money in the world, why not hire more people?
     
  6. cmChimera macrumors 68040

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    Which services? I'm saddened by the lack of a News app as well, so I suppose I should use something else.
     
  7. gsmornot macrumors 68030

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    I use Flipboard when I can't get to News.
     
  8. boston04and07 macrumors 65816

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    Totally agree. I was pretty sure we'd see News this time around - it just seemed like such an obvious addition, especially since they've been promoting it so much since its introduction last year. It's really too bad that they're taking so long to bring it to the desktop. I use it on my iOS devices all the time and really miss it on my Mac.

    This! I get that sometimes they want to test out and refine certain features before bringing them to the desktop, but at the end of the day I am really sick of having to go get my iPhone to perform a simple task or look up some basic data when my fully capable MacBook Pro is sitting in my lap, just because the app in question isn't available on the Mac. This type of thing really bugs me.
     
  9. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

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    I think they use iOS as a test for how people respond to it, and how the application should evolve in the future. If they still haven't nailed it, they won't work on it for macOS. News got some pretty major changes for iOS this time around I believe, which should support that hypothesis.
     
  10. boston04and07 macrumors 65816

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    This is true, and very good point. News did get a lot of improvements. I was actually hoping they'd add the option to include subscription sources so that I could delete a few extra apps, haha, and breaking news alerts will be very welcome. If iBooks could find a home on OS X, then News app certainly will, I think...just a matter of when!
     
  11. lagwagon Suspended

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    News app on iOS still isn't even in hardly any country outside the US. I'm in Canada and still can't get it (without having to change my phones region setting, which I'm not willing to do because it changes currency and measurement types.) They keep pushing how great the app is and constantly making it out to be a huge feature to iOS. It's even being redesigned already after one year, yet it's not offered to most customers.

    So it's not surprising it's not available on a Mac yet. They should probably make it widely available to its customers before porting it over.
     
  12. perezr10 macrumors 6502a

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    Yeah, it's only 3 countries. USA, UK, and Australia.

    But I'm looking forward to getting it on the Mac. I thought it was a joke at first but I really like it. I used to use mainly Newsify and Flipboard but I'm gravitating more and more to Apple News.
     
  13. insomniac86 macrumors regular

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    You really would have thought....

    I expected a 10.12 to have the following stand alone apps:
    -News App
    -Health App
    -Activity App
    -Wallet (Due to Apple Pay coming)
    -Stand alone Phone Dialler app (Instead of launching FaceTime to make an audio only 3/4G call.
    (I wanted to be able to transfer a call from the Phone to my Mac. At the moment you can only transfer from Mac to Phone.

    So yeah, 10.12 is a huge let down. (In the apps department)
     
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  15. gsmornot macrumors 68030

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    Nothing wrong with Feedly or Flipboard for that matter. I just prefer to use as many native applications as I can. They have the potential to be more tightly integrated to other native apps and the OS. No issues with the other options, no complaints, just not native.
     
  16. TrenttonY thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    + native Weather.app, Stocks.app, and maybe a Tips.app

    Why does Apple always keep bringing new apps and features, when the current ones aren't even cross-platform yet?
     
  17. TurboPGT! Suspended

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    That's not hard to answer. The eye is always on new features. It's hard for Apple paint iOS Apps ported to Mac as "new".
    And I don't think anyone would disagree that the new features of Sierra are much bigger deal than companion Health or Weather apps. The Health App wouldn't do anything, except be another place for Health data to exist. There isn't even a Health App on iPad, for this same reason.

    TL;DR if the App is only receiving input from one place, i.e. iPhone, it is hard to justify Read-Only versions on Mac and iPad.
     
  18. insomniac86 macrumors regular

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    I kinda agree with what your saying. It would be hard for Apple to feature these as "new". But really, it would hardly take any effort to port these apps in. They don't have to mention them at the WWDC event as headliner features.

    The Activity app (being read only) is probably a waste on macOS as your not gonna use your laptop to do step tracking etc.

    But dude, saying having Health data on the Mac/Ipad is a waste because it wouldn't "do" anything? *****!?
    What do you mean it wouldn't do anything? Health doesn't do anything on iOS either. It's job is to offer graphing, logging & lists to view your health metrics over time. I'd rather view a 3 year long graph and compare with other health stats on my 27" iMac then my iPhone. From the Mac you would be more likely to generate a report and email it to your GP. To me it's the perfect place to have your health data.


    I prefer to use feedbin over Feedly. I then use Reeder 3 on Mac/iOS as the fronted of feedbin and its great.

    Thing is, i really enjoy the layout of the news app. Id' prefer to ditch the cost of my yearly feedbin subscription and Reeder app updates and just use the native News app.
     
  19. chrf097 macrumors 68040

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    Health and Activity would be useless on a Mac unless you manually input all the data, because that information doesn't sync with iCloud for privacy reasons, and I can make cellular calls through the FaceTime app.

    Also, pretty much from health on you begin cluttering the system. Health, Activity, and Wallet are all designed specifically to be used with a mobile platform. The very limited application those have on a desktop computer aren't enough to warrant the time to make them.
     
  20. insomniac86 macrumors regular

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    So Health data should sync. If there is a privacy/security reason for Health data not syncing, then it's more dangerous to have my documents and desktop syncing to iCloud lol, so i doubt thats the case.

    Activity App can be removed from the list as i mentioned in another post.

    Wallet is a way of managing Apple Pay and it's cards. But since it relies on using touch ID with the iPhone for payment, i guess it doesn't need a macOS based UI.

    I know you can make cellular calls via FaceTime, but it seems silly that the UI is setup for video calls (turns the camera on when wanting to make an audio call). But that's me just fussy. I guess there's nothing wrong with the functionality. (Expect for not being able to send a call back to the Mac once transferred to the phone).
     
  21. boston04and07 macrumors 65816

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    I disagree with this assessment. For many of us, being able to view your Health data from other devices would be invaluable, especially on devices with larger screens. I think Apple should give each user the option of cloud syncing this data from the iPhone/Apple Watch, just like they give us the option of cloud syncing other sets of data, for those of us who would want it. That in turn would require apps to view the data from other devices. I get the privacy issues some may have, but they give us the option of cloud syncing and storing many other types of data that could be very sensitive. For some (myself included), calendar data, email, the current location of an iPhone, and even some notes might be more sensitive than what they keep in their Health app. So again, I'd appreciate the ability to decide for myself what should be stored in the cloud and view my own data from my own other devices if I wanted. It would be very, very useful for me and far cry from clutter.

    Just because one user doesn't personally see the need for an app or feature, doesn't mean that it's necessarily "clutter" or useless. Plenty of other people might find value in a requested app, and you certainly don't need to use apps you don't find useful! There are plenty of built in apps and features on macOS and iOS that I don't find useful, but I'd never put them down and call them useless across the board because I know other people might find them quite useful in their daily workflows.

    Could agree more with all of this! Especially the part about the FaceTime UI not fitting phone calls. They really need to come up with a better UI for that.
     
  22. chrf097 macrumors 68040

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    I never said anything about it not being useful, I said that (in its current state) the Health app is useless without manual input because Health data doesn't sync via iCloud.

    The reason Apple doesn't offer the option to sync health data across iCloud, nor will they probably ever, is because some health information that Apple offers to store is actually VERY sensitive for people, and there are plenty of legal pitfalls with storing such information on their servers. They would have to unencrypt that information for them to sync via iCloud (same reason why iMessages do not sync across devices).
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    It's more of a fear out of legal issues and due to the fact that some of the information collected by Apple actually DOES have legal protection due to HIPPA.

    Because of this, Health currently does not, nor will it probably ever sync via iCloud, as doing so would require it to be unencrypted (same reason iMessage doesn't sync across iCloud either).
     
  23. maflynn Moderator

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    I find the news app to be a nice addition to my iPhone, but truthfully, I really don't see the need (or the allure) for macOS. I have what I need in my favorites.
     
  24. Freyqq macrumors 68040

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    being able to at least export the data to csv would be nice.
     
  25. redheeler macrumors 603

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    Obviously this will be a big new feature in 10.13. What iOS has had for years now coming to the Mac! Same slogan is applicable to the biggest new feature in 10.12, I might add.

    Anyone miss the days when the Mac came first? I wasn't even a Mac user back then, unfortunately.
     

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