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News on Diskwarriors compatibility with 10.13

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a.borque

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Hello!
Diskwarrior 5 isn't compatible with MacOS 10.13. In a post from September 25th 2017 Alsoft says they are working furiously to release Diskwarrior 5.1 and Recover Maker 1.2 as a preliminary fix soon.
Since this is now more than three month ago I and there are no signs of that fixes or DW 6 I wonder, whether there are any news on this?
Thanks
A.Borque
 
Alsoft plays with words a little...
DiskWarrior 5 is, in fact, compatible with macOS 10.13
You can rebuild Mac OS Extended (HFS+) drives all day long, even under macOS 10.13
However, APFS-formatted disks won't appear on DW disk list, and you can't do anything with those disks using Disk Warrior.
So, for most Mac users, DiskWarrior is essentially useless with High Sierra, so far.
I also noticed from a previous post on this forum that the 5.1 update will list APFS drives, but won't (as of that September 2017 post) rebuild those drives. You will have to wait for the next version released for DW (at least as posted in September)

As chscag suggested, no harm in contacting Alsoft support directly, maybe there is more current information than you can find on their website.
 
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DeltaMac said:
As chscag suggested, no harm in contacting Alsoft support directly, maybe there is more current information than you can find on their website.
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I did before posting here: I said I read their page about DW 5 and MacOS 10.13 and would like to know whether there are any news after three month or at least a kind of an ETA or timeframe for the updates. They replied by just mailing a link to the page I cited in my support request to them...
 
No one here will know the answer to your questions about updates for Alsoft software, until Alsoft is willing to share what THEY know. So far, only Alsoft can answer your question. (I am waiting for an update to Diskwarrior, too! I hope it is sooner, rather than later :cool: )
 
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DeltaMac said:
No one here will know the answer to your questions about updates for Alsoft software, until Alsoft is willing to share what THEY know. So far, only Alsoft can answer your question. (I am waiting for an update to Diskwarrior, too! I hope it is sooner, rather than later :cool: )
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You are right. But occasionally there are some beta-testers or other reliable sources in tech-forums like this one and share information they have (as long as there is no NDA...).
This is why I asked here.
 
I believe what we're seeing with the Disk Warrior holdup and also Data Rescue (from ProSoft) is getting their utility working right with APFS. Almost all of Apple's new Macs are now equipped with Flash storage or a mix of Flash storage. The exception is that a new iMac can be ordered with only a spinner hard drive. APFS and the new form of encryption has made it more difficult for utility developers.
 
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Likely trouble with private APIs. Apple's been awfully restrictive with using those for years, and it really hurts developers when Apple lets its engineers call magic bits of code to do hard and important stuff, then locks third party developers out in the cold. Reinventing the wheel correctly can be very hard work; especially if said wheel has bugs in it it which are relied upon for obscure purposes.
 
I look forward to hearing about the next version of APFS Disk Warrior, although I do not think it is going to come anytime soon. DW is awesome, but updates to the App itself don't seem to come out very quickly. I probably will not take my main machines to High Sierra (or a future APFS OS) until a DW release for APFS comes out, as I like having it as a safety net.
 
a.borque said:
Hello!
Diskwarrior 5 isn't compatible with MacOS 10.13. In a post from September 25th 2017 Alsoft says they are working furiously to release Diskwarrior 5.1 and Recover Maker 1.2 as a preliminary fix soon.
Since this is now more than three month ago I and there are no signs of that fixes or DW 6 I wonder, whether there are any news on this?
Thanks
A.Borque
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[doublepost=1520659732][/doublepost]Anybody had an update on this? Ive also been frustrated with trying to create a Recovery Disk. Having contacted Alsoft but its Sunday in Oz. Three months seems a long time for something they are working furiously on.
 
Ge77y said:
[doublepost=1520659732][/doublepost]Anybody had an update on this? Ive also been frustrated with trying to create a Recovery Disk. Having contacted Alsoft but its Sunday in Oz. Three months seems a long time for something they are working furiously on.
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I think your instincts on posting here rather than contacting Alsoft support are validated by the following response I received from Alsoft support, which is both sad and hilarious:

https://www.alsoft.com/DiskWarrior/highsierraapfs.html

As we are only in Technical Support, we have been provided no additional information than what is on this webpage.
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I guess I should have waited more than 6 months to upgrade to High Sierra :p
 
brian.tully said:
I think your instincts on posting here rather than contacting Alsoft support are validated by the following response I received from Alsoft support, which is both sad and hilarious:



I guess I should have waited more than 6 months to upgrade to High Sierra :p
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Just got the same response last week from a similar inquiry.
 
The website has no date when the details were updated. It is disheartening to not have better information available.

Going back one step, it was posted around 9/25/2017 so it has been out there for some time.
 
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As we are only in Technical Support, we have been provided no additional information than what is on this webpage.
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That's a cruddy way to run tech support.
If I call them, I've already read the page.
 
Is Alsoft a failing company? Should I switch to TECHTool Pro?

I got the same response from Tech Support. A link to no new info. They could at least update the info every month.
 
rjtiedeman, communicate your complaint to Alsoft. My experience of TechTool Pro is that, while it does a lot of diagnostics, it has never been able to repair the disk directory the way Diskwarrior did... until now. Now meaning, High Sierra on SSD's. I just checked and Diskwarrior still does not work on APFS drives. They say they are still waiting for Apple to release more info about the OS.
 
I have both Diskwarrior and TechTool Pro, and have used them both for quite some time.
Recommend them both.
I use TTP to a lot more stuff. Repairing, rebuilding directories & disks as well.
DW, not so much. But what it do, it do it well

Now I haven’t tested or checked up exactly what TTP can do on APFS, as I don’t have it on my iMac (fusiondrive) until Mojave.
But check up for yourself: https://www.micromat.com/products/techtool-pro
 
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I have both Diskwarrior and TechTool Pro, and have used them both for quite some time.
Recommend them both.
I use TTP to a lot more stuff. Repairing, rebuilding directories & disks as well.
DW, not so much. But what it do, it do it well

Now I haven’t tested or checked up exactly what TTP can do on APFS, as I don’t have it on my iMac (fusiondrive) until Mojave.
But check up for yourself: https://www.micromat.com/products/techtool-pro
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I have been using TTPro (along with Onyx) for quite some time, and I have SSDs (not Fusion Drives) inside both of my Macs (and two external Samsung SSDs). It works flawlessly with OS 10.13.x (now on OS 10.13.6) and APFS. I suspect that will remain the same once they develop an update for Mojave compatibility (most likely by late November/early December). Issues with APFS and Fusion Drives, while a defect in High Sierra, are supposedly being fixed with Mojave.
 
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