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Next Gen MacBook Pro

Fonzijr1964

Fonzijr1964

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Ok so usually i would make a "Photoshop" of the next Gen MacBook Pro but it is just to hard to do. Just too many possibilities and no examples.

My prediction is as follows:
~MBA like shape with thinner front and thicker back.
~Black, backlit, chicklit keys
~Magnetic latch
~All hi rez and LED backlit
~HDMI out?
~15, 17, and possibly an 19 or 20 inch

Base Model:
~2.5Ghz
~2GB of RAM
~200GB HDD at 7200RPM
~9700M GT 512MB

Top range:
~2.8Ghz
~4GB
~500GB HDD at 7200
~9700M GT 512

Options:
~128GB SSD


tell me what u think:cool:
 
I think those projections are very reasonable. I would also love them to be accurate.
 
Fonzijr1964 said:
My prediction is as follows:
~MBA like shape with thinner front and thicker back.
~Black, backlit, chicklit keys
~Magnetic latch
~All hi rez and LED backlit
~HDMI out?
~15, 17, and possibly an 19 or 20 inch

Base Model:
~2.5Ghz
~2GB of RAM
~200GB HDD at 7200RPM
~8600M GT 512MB

Options:
~128GB SSD
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Keep your tapering away from my machines.
Chiclet keyboard... meh. I've finally used them both and I favor the current one by a little.
Magnetic latch? Sure.
No way. 1920x1200 on a 15" screen is eye rape. More like 1920x1200 standard on the 17" and 1680x1050 standard on the 15".
Not without Blu-ray, and there won't be Blu-ray. I'd like to see eSATA, though. Add a USB to each model and change the FireWire 800 to FireWire 3200.
Nope. No 19 or 20.

It'll probably be 2.4, 2.53, and 2.8.
Two gigs still, yep, but the 17" could get 4GB standard since expansion would be to 8GB.
Since it's 200GB now, I'd say 250 base with 300 on the mid and 17" with a faster 320 and the 500 as options.
No. Get that year-old, potentially-borked card out of there. It'll be something from a 9400 to a 9700M or a comparable ATI card, since they like to switch every so often.
I can see an SSD option...
 
I don't think they would go to a 19 or 20". The 17's are already heavy enough as it is, and I really don't think there is a lot to gain. It would make more sense to just have a smaller notebook and a nice big display on your desk that you can hook into.
 
why would the base and top model have exactly the same graphics? you would think the top model would have more video ram or even a different model 8 series card or even 9 series card.
 
Tallest Skil said:
Keep your tapering away from my machines.
Chiclet keyboard... meh. I've finally used them both and I favor the current one by a little.
Magnetic latch? Sure.
No way. 1920x1200 on a 15" screen is eye rape. More like 1920x1200 standard on the 17" and 1680x1050 standard on the 15".
Not without Blu-ray, and there won't be Blu-ray. I'd like to see eSATA, though. Add a USB to each model and change the FireWire 800 to FireWire 3200.
Nope. No 19 or 20.

It'll probably be 2.4, 2.53, and 2.8.
Two gigs still, yep, but the 17" could get 4GB standard since expansion would be to 8GB.
Since it's 200GB now, I'd say 250 base with 300 on the mid and 17" with a faster 320 and the 500 as options.
No. Get that year-old, potentially-borked card out of there. It'll be something from a 9400 to a 9700M or a comparable ATI card, since they like to switch every so often.
I can see an SSD option...
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I know the cards are bad but i think apple seems to like the cards

Salavat23 said:
The GPU will change to an Nvidia 9x00m series or ATI 3xxx/4xxx series.
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Maybe but as i said apple seems to like the current cards

richthomas said:
why would the base and top model have exactly the same graphics? you would think the top model would have more video ram or even a different model 8 series card or even 9 series card.
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I know
 
Fonzijr1964 said:
I know the cards are bad but i think apple seems to like the cards
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Heh. Only because everything better was over their self-imposed power draw and heat limit.

There are some very good 9x00 cards that fill their prerequisites now.

That, and the 8600 is one of the cards that nVidia set aside $200,000,000 to fix should they go bad, and companies don't throw around $200,000,000.
 
Tallest Skil said:
That, and the 8600 is one of the cards that nVidia set aside $200,000,000 to fix should they go bad, and companies don't throw around $200,000,000.
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Damn... 200 mil not for graphics card production but for insurance.. sounds like a US defense contract or something haha
 
I wouldn't hold your breathe for too high end stock specs. Afterall, they want to sell you upgrades at the 700% markup..

If they can go up to 500 GB HD's, expect 250s and 320s.
 
Quick question
What are the odds of apple adding a mba style keyboard?
i have to say that the mba looks horrible, besides its form factor
I put my trust in apple to release a good looking notebook
but i think the black plastic keys would look a bit cheap for a "pro" model
 
Fonzijr1964 said:
Ok so usually i would make a "Photoshop" of the next Gen MacBook Pro but it is just to hard to do. Just too many possibilities and no examples.

My prediction is as follows:
~MBA like shape with thinner front and thicker back.
Possible
~Black, backlit, chicklit keys
I think the backlit keys are awsome
~Magnetic latch
I suppose it would be nice
~All hi rez and LED backlit
Depends on how you define hi res. I think 1440x900 on the 15" is fine
~HDMI out?
More probably on the 17" MBP. Having cluttered sides would be kind of annoying
~15, 17, and possibly an 19 or 20 inch
No 19 or 20 inch. That's what the iMac is for. At that size, it's hardly even considered portable
Base Model:
~2.5Ghz
~2GB of RAM
~200GB HDD at 7200RPM
~9700M GT 512MB
If they come out with the next generation MBP after Nehalem, you can throw the speeds out the window. There's really no indication as to what speeds the processors will be introduced at. If Nvidia releases any budget-mainstream video cards based off their newest video cards and mobile varients based off of it (the entire 9xxx series is basically a refreshed 8xxx series with some tweaks here and there), they'll be included instead of a 9xxx series video card. Also, the 9700M GT is based off the G96 core (I think the some one in the 9500M series), but at a higher core, memory, and shader clock frequencies. This will produce more heat over the 9500M series.
Top range:
~2.8Ghz
~4GB
~500GB HDD at 7200
~9700M GT 512
What I said is applicable to the top
Options:
~128GB SSD


tell me what u think:cool:
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In the quote.

Although, it really doesn't matter to me, since I'm not buying it (I already have a Macbook Pro and I'm not made out of money).
 
Tallest Skil said:
It'll probably be 2.4, 2.53, and 2.8.
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with all due respect, and I am going off of NO prior knowlege of how apple releases updates...those numbers do not make sense. I think it will be a 2.5, 2.6 ,and a 2.8. Everything else you said seemed very logical to me however
 
Dan Lorth said:
with all due respect, and I am going off of NO prior knowlege of how apple releases updates...those numbers do not make sense. I think it will be a 2.5, 2.6 ,and a 2.8. Everything else you said seemed very logical to me however
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The trouble is that none of the processors usable in Montevina (at least in terms of having a 1066MHz front side bus) have a clock speed of 2.6 GHz. The new processors move at GHz speeds of: 2.26, 2.4, 2.53, and 2.8. The 2.6 is still available, of course, but it only carries a 800MHz fsb, which I doubt Apple will want to use anymore.

There's also a 3.06GHz running at 1066MHz fsb, but it's in the "Extreme" family, so I wouldn't expect Apple to use it.

Assuming Apple keeps their current MBP processor speed hierarchies, then it's likely that the only change in that regard will be the move from a 2.6 option to a 2.8.
 
Dan Lorth said:
with all due respect, and I am going off of NO prior knowlege of how apple releases updates...those numbers do not make sense. I think it will be a 2.5, 2.6 ,and a 2.8. Everything else you said seemed very logical to me however
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Read up on processor speeds and multipliers. The CPU clock is a multiple of the FSB frequency.

The current Penryn/SR family have FSB800 (200 MHz quad-pumped). The 2.4, 2.5, and 2.6 GHz speeds have 12x, 12.5x, and 13x multipliers respectively.

The coming Penryn/Montevina family have FSB1066 (266 MHz quad-pumped). The 2.4, 2.53, and 2.8 GHz speeds have 9x, 9.5x, and 10.5x multipliers respectively.
 
ah i see the reasoning for you saying those processor speeds now. thanks for not flaming me too hard. ill read those links you posted. thanks
 
The 9700m GT uses 45 watt, the current 8600m GT uses 22 watt.
It's more likely we get 9600m GT (23w) or 9650m GS (29w)
 
I've devised a simple diagram you can all use to determine whether or not a given card might appear in the new MBPs.

...........Is it underpowered for a $2.5k laptop?...........
....................__________^__________...................
................./....................................\.................
................|......................................|................
..............Yes...................................No................
................|......................................|................
................|......................................|................
..Candidate for the MBP......Not a candidate for the MBP
 
Tallest Skil said:
Does it use more than about 30 watts?

Yes: Not happening.
No: Could happen.

If you don't feel that the hardware is what you need, don't buy the computer.
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I'd just like Apple to up the performance/price ratio to the standard that the MacBook enjoys.
 
Yixian said:
I'd just like Apple to up the performance/price ratio to the standard that the MacBook enjoys.
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Aren't we also complaining about the crappy IGPU there, too? :rolleyes:

If we get an x4500 in the MacBook and a 9650M GS in the MacBook Pro, that'd be epic.

Epic only because we can't expect anything better that wouldn't melt through the bottom of the case and fuse our MacBook Pros to our laps.
 
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