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They have allowed it ever since the G5 iMac I believe. I know the current ones do, but I think the old G4s didn't.

I'm using a G4 at work (public access TV) as a teleprompting machine. I have the VGA output running mirrored display to 15" LCDs mounted on the studio cameras.

3 years ago it was in one of our FCP edit bays. boy did that thing drag!
 
What am I missing with people wanting a Blu-Ray movie player? I watch movies on my TV ... do that many people really use their Mac to watch movies? And if you do how is the screen anywhere big enough to have a noticeable difference between DVD and BR? I never got that.
If they do come out with this upgrade soon and BR is included I hope there is a cheaper version w/o BR as I don't want it on my computer and I certainly don't want to pay for it.
 
Needed features

Speed! Power!

I use my iMac to do some pretty hefty graphic design work. At work. I also use it to do some pretty hefty video/photo editing. At home.

I bought an iMac because I wanted to be able to move it with ease between work/home on the weekends. It does awesome in this aspect, but I would really like to be able to cram 8GB in there so that it can run FCP, PSCS4, iTunes, and whatever else I may be trying to do at the same time with ease.

I would also like to see more ports on the back. 2 firewires would be nice so I could actually capture DV footage directly onto my firewire editing drive.


-Black-keyed keyboard. When i am using this stupid white keyboard for 60+ hours a week, I get pretty sick of seeing the keys slowly turn yellow and require a good cleaning.

-Matte screen would be sooo nice. The light from my office windows cause near-unbearable glares.

-Get rid of that freakin chin thing!

-Why so much bezel?

-unintegrated video!

-More USB ports! I currently have all full with an extra 4-splitter occupying one of them, and that is all full! I really hate using the keyboard ports.

PS- WHY do people want BD so bad? Like the above poster said, you would be hard-pressed to tell a difference on a 20" or 24" screen.

Why not do your computing on the Mac, and watch your Blu-Rays on your real TV, that is DEDICATED to playing movies?
 
You don't need 50 GB for a decent rip/download. Ripping from DVDs is good enough unless you have a >50" HDTV screen and are sitting very close to the screen.

Why should I settle for something of inferior quality just because Apple doesn't want to provide a premium product?
 
yeah not sure I need thin. But it definitely will look cooler if it is thinner and they remove the chin.

Still a hard drive that pops out would be a nice feature.
 
Thinner is fine, as long as the hard-drive and RAM are user-replaceable (without voiding the warranty and needing a plunger to remove the glass).
 
When do you think we will hear an event scheduled? I say October 20th.

My birthday. 0.0

Family iMac is gonna last at least a decade. That's our intention. So it'll be lovely to see the new design. I do hope the chin goes away. That has bothered me a bit ever since I started watching anime online.
 
Ability to use the screen as a monitor would be nice too.

10-minute battery so you can move your iMac to another outlet around the house.

HDMI or enable displayport compatibility with HDMI.
 
I want to know why they are spending their time working on a new iMac when all anybody really wants anyway is the new tablet computer!

Come on, apple!
:p

Thinner is fine, as long as the hard-drive and RAM are user-replaceable (without voiding the warranty and needing a plunger to remove the glass).

Amen.

RAM has always been a piece of cake. But recently I thought I might need to replace the HDD (thinking it was failing). I take apart windows systems all the time, and have all the tools, but getting into the internals of the imac to replace the HDD was just about more than I was willing to do. When part of the instructions are "grab a putty knife and work it around near the air vent until you unhook the latch - it might take you 5 or 10 minutes, don't give up, and don't force it or the case will hang funny for the rest of forever", you know they really don't want you replacing the HDD.

I don't expect to be able to replace the graphics, or plug new PCI Express boards into an all-in-1 computer, but it sure does feel like Apple could do SOMETHING to make HDD replacement a little simpler on these machines. A prosumer should be able to do it without voiding warranty, or causing permanent damage to the casing.
 
What am I missing with people wanting a Blu-Ray movie player? I watch movies on my TV ... do that many people really use their Mac to watch movies? And if you do how is the screen anywhere big enough to have a noticeable difference between DVD and BR? I never got that.
If they do come out with this upgrade soon and BR is included I hope there is a cheaper version w/o BR as I don't want it on my computer and I certainly don't want to pay for it.

HD is about viewing distance. Monitors have a much higher pixel per inch resolution that televisions, so they can be viewed much closer up.

You're typically foot or two away from your monitor. You can easily see the difference at that distance.

Switch your mac to a 640x480 resolution and see if you notice a difference. Really though, you can't tell the difference between a 640x480 video or image vs a 1920x1080 video or image?
 
HD is about viewing distance. Monitors have a much higher pixel per inch resolution that televisions, so they can be viewed much closer up.

You're typically foot or two away from your monitor. You can easily see the difference at that distance.

Switch your mac to a 640x480 resolution and see if you notice a difference. Really though, you can't tell the difference between a 640x480 video or image vs a 1920x1080 video or image?

remember HD can be at any size, as long as the resolution is 1920x1080 you got HD. doesnt matter if its a small 16" screen
 
PS- WHY do people want BD so bad? Like the above poster said, you would be hard-pressed to tell a difference on a 20" or 24" screen.

Why not do your computing on the Mac, and watch your Blu-Rays on your real TV, that is DEDICATED to playing movies?

Reason 1 - Data backup. Tell me another way to backup 50 gig in a non-magnetic medium?

Reason 2 - Movie duplicity - I want to buy/rent ONE disk. Not a DVD for a laptop or desktop, and then BR for the TV.

Reason 3 - Quality - I've watched BR on a 24inch Dell display. Utterly awesome.

Reason 4 - Authoring - What's the point in having apps like Encore that can publish to to BR format and FC / Premiere than can edit HD - without the means to throw it to disk?

Reason 5 - Choice. I want it. You don't? That's fine. Don't buy it. When Acer can sell you a laptop with BR reading for <£500. I added a BR writer to my PC desktop for <£150. It's about damn time Apple pulled their finger out and offered its customers this as an option.

And please - enough of the 'optical media is dead' nonsense. Bandwidth simply can not offer the quality of BR mastered footage via the internet. It needs an order of magnitude improvement without any increase in cost before we're there. That's a decade away.
 
PS- WHY do people want BD so bad? Like the above poster said, you would be hard-pressed to tell a difference on a 20" or 24" screen.

Why not do your computing on the Mac, and watch your Blu-Rays on your real TV, that is DEDICATED to playing movies?

where have you been the last 10 years? Computers have been capable of playing DVD movies for over 10 years now. My familys first computer, that we got back in 1999 that had Windows 98 Second edition had a DVD drive bulit in.

plus what if your on a plane or in your hotel room and want to watch a movie instead of the crappy cable networks.

Reason 1 - Data backup. Tell me another way to backup 50 gig in a non-magnetic medium?

Reason 2 - Movie duplicity - I want to buy/rent ONE disk. Not a DVD for a laptop or desktop, and then BR for the TV.

Reason 3 - Quality - I've watched BR on a 24inch Dell display. Utterly awesome.

Reason 4 - Authoring - What's the point in having apps like Encore that can publish to to BR format and FC / Premiere than can edit HD - without the means to throw it to disk?

Reason 5 - Choice. I want it. You don't? That's fine. Don't buy it. When Acer can sell you a laptop with BR reading for <£500. I added a BR writer to my PC desktop for <£150. It's about damn time Apple pulled their finger out and offered its customers this as an option.

And please - enough of the 'optical media is dead' nonsense. Bandwidth simply can not offer the quality of BR mastered footage via the internet. It needs an order of magnitude improvement without any increase in cost before we're there. That's a decade away.

+1

couldn't agree more.
 
I kind of hope they don't put Blu-Ray drives in the iMacs. People say that PC'S have been doing this for quite some time now. I agree with that. But remember Apple is always about being innovative and not following the heard. Optical disk storage is a very old technology. Hard Drive space is so cheep now and Flash memory prices are coming down everyday. I believe that these are the technologies to work with and i think that apple is thinking this way too.

The only place that i could see Blu-Ray making sense is in a mac used as a HTPC

Just my 2 Cents. :apple:

There is probably nothing out there more reliable and durable than an optical disc. Hard drives can die on their own even if you handle them properly, and while flash is more reliable, it's sometimes prone to problems. But optical discs? As long as you don't play frisbee with them, with rare exceptions, your data will be there when you need it. They're not going away anytime soon.
 
Except bluray movies are way better quality than downloaded movies and they can be 50GB in size. So what moron is going to fill up their hard disk with 50GB movie files?

I hope they do put bluray in, it's pitiful that it isn't there already.


I noticed a lot of people commented, "I hope they don't put the blu-ray in or VOD is better or optical discs is old technology or they will come up with a better format better than blu-ray....", whine, etc.

As for other mac users, "I need blu-ray to back up, to watch, author, etc." And yes there are people who need them.

Thus, hoping that they put or not put blu-ray into macs does not make any compromises to users needs. Therefore, whats likely to happen if Apple decides to implement this drive, is that it will be an OPTION.

The only problem Apple has is DRM,HDCP,licensing, etc. Therefore you cannot playback blu-ray movies on the mac. It doesn't mean the drive is useless. Snow Leopard and even Leopard has drivers to read/write to blu-ray disc. Final Cut pro users, Adobe encore users can author BD disc. Whats is cumbersome is there is no dedicated BD player on osx, giving you the only option is to Bootcamp to windows to playback the content.
 
I don't buy that. Many an iMac has been sold on the basis of "you mean that's the entire computer?"

Who is this "we" you are talking about? "We" is a small handful of geeks in a forum. While if you asked anyone, sure they'd say they want a faster computer, but the general public doesn't watch HD movies on their Macs, so blue-ray is out. The general public doesn't know what "quad-core" means so it doesn't matter as long as the computer is fast enough to do what they want.

You could make that argument for every high-end feature Apple rolls out across their products.

How many consumers need Firewire 800, Bluetooth, 802.11n wireless or DisplayPort? Yet all those features are still included.
 
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