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Many people hold their phones with their index finger pressed to the back of the phone. Maybe stroking up or down can adjust speaker volume during a call, which is easier than pressing the small side buttons during a call.

It would be better if you could speed up or slow down a conversation.
 
Can we declare a moritorium on spiralling camera sizes?

For one reason you are limited by the optics, there is only so much info you can get through a piece of glass the size of a lentil in an unsupported handheld device.

But mostly its about wasting data. I remember when a desktop sized jpeg was no more than 100kb. How often do we actually print out a photo larger than A4 at 100dpi?

If the phone is going to be running up 3mb files every click it might be a good idea to have compression software that automatically knocks a decimal point or two off pictures when you want to email or mms them.

There is no point complaining the airwaves are congested when throwaway snaps are being zipped across the ether at 1,000-10,000% acceptable quality.
 
5 MP I can see being useful, could someone explain how multitouch gestures on the back of a phone could be useful at all? I like the idea and the tech, I just don't think it would work on the iPhone.

That's right, go and bring common sense into and you'll ruin this for us all.
:p
 
I didn't read this entire thread, so forgive me if I say something that has already been mentioned.

Wouldn't it make more sense to make the side or top-edge touch sensitive, or perhaps the top 1/3rd of the back casing to allow for 2-finger scroll?

Making the entire back of the case touch-sensitive would be rather useless, IMO. More power consumed, and yet most of that power would go towards ignoring unintentional taps and swipes on the back casing. :eek:
 
Yeah right. I just tried to do only a scrolling motion on the back. Instant finger cramp. Can't even imagine multiple fingers (probably will drop the phone when pinching)

sorry I don't buy it

Tim
 
"Chapter 12

A loud clatter of gunk music flooded through the Heart of Gold cabin as Zaphod searched the sub-etha radio wavebands for news of himself.

The machine was rather difficult to operate.

For years radios had been operated by means of pressing buttons and turning dials; then as the technology became more sophisticated the controls were made touch-sensitive — you merely had to brush the panels with your fingers; now all you had to do was wave your hand in the general direction of the components and hope.

It saved a lot of muscular expenditure of course, but meant that you had to sit infuriatingly still"


DNA - UK :apple: fan #1
 
Several things seem obvious to me - I may be wrong but we'll see:

-The tablet will have a new UI.
-Elements of that new UI will filter down to the next gen iPhone.
-Apple Patents have have depicted some kind of 3d-ness to the new "mobile" UI
-Given 3d-ness, it would be intuitive to be able to manipulate things in the foreground or background by touching either the front touchscreen or the back touch-sensitive case.
-Both the tablet and the iPhone (+ iPod Touch) would need a touch-sensitive back surface to use this UI.

Ironically enough, all those people that didn't want the tablet to have the same UI as the iphone will be wrong - but only because it won't be the current iPhone UI.

Make sense?
 
P.S. I DO have confidence that whatever is good enough for Jobs will actually WORK.....

(drawing a discreet veil over the iMac circular mouse....:D. 'Everyone gets one')
 
Sunburn of the Precious

Will the touch sensitive casing be burnt by the sun when used as GPS with Tomtom or other?
The precious gets pretty hot on the dash board during the day and I fear for the precious.
 

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I can definitely see this work on an iSlate because it's bigger.
You can use thumb-typing for like 10 or 12 letters and your other fingers at the back for the rest of the alphabet. Once used to it I think you could actually type VERY fast like that.


But on an iPhone.... the only purpose in my eyes is gaming controls or app controls, not typing...
 
What I don't understand is why so many people are so keen on performing multitouch gestures on the back. At least for me the whole point of multitouch screens is so that I can manipulate objects directly with my fingers without the abstraction that is need when manipulating objects with a mouse or trackpad.

I could only see them adding touch sensitive buttons on the back. Like for gaming controls or maybe a keyboard on the slate. Although I really don't like the idea of typing on the back of a device.

IMO multitouch gestures on the back won't happen.

Yes, but manipulating an object from underneath is not terribly more abstract than manipulating it from above.

On the phone, I think the usefulness is limited. However, I think another poster makes a good point about the possibility that the OS developed for the slate could naturally carry over this element to the iPhone. Just look at what happened with multi-touch already: after starting on the iPhone/touch it made it's way into the laptop trackpads and finally the desktops via the magic mouse. Clearly Apple believes that this is the way things should go.

Keeping your fingers off the front for many things (oleophobic coating or not) is nice. On the tablet, it will be even more important. Can you imagine what a smudge magnet a 10" iPhone would be?

As for the keyboard on the back: if the keyboard display on the front is laid out like regular qwerty (not split) and can cleverly show you where your fingers are hitting the "keys", I bet you would adapt very quickly to such a mild perceptual distortion (hands rotated and reversed relative to on-screen keyboard display).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perceptual_adaptation (pretty weak entry, but you get the idea of how extreme an adaptation can be accommodated.)

Steep learning curve, indeed, but once you were adapted, I think you would type as quickly as on a real keyboard.

As for the guy that said the case manufacturers would never allow it: I'll assume that is sarcasm. Apple has not generally been afraid to screw third party providers when it serves their agenda.
 
The phone cover people are not going to like that....shoot, I am not going to like that. I rather see the touch senstive areas like described on the new tablet than the iPhone.

I predict that the new iPhone will RECORD HD video. That would be a first for any phone on the market and will blow people away. No one seems to be expecting that.
 
HD video

The phone cover people are not going to like that....shoot, I am not going to like that. I rather see the touch senstive areas like described on the new tablet than the iPhone.

I predict that the new iPhone will RECORD HD video. That would be a first for any phone on the market and will blow people away. No one seems to be expecting that.

Yeah its very likely it will record 720p video (definitely not 1080) but wouldnt be first in it.... Samsung i8910 is able to do that for a long time...
 
could be good. scroll through lists while holding phone in one hand, index finger controls scrolling on back of iphone, instead of using index finger of other hand on the screen.

it has become tiring that so many actions on the iphone require 2 hands instead of one.

In trying to keep an open mind I could justify utilizing the back surface for touch sensitivity in tasks that require full and uninterrupted use of the front facing screen. However, if there is not way to disengage rear input sensitivity, this may create more problems than it proposes to solve. There have been a few patents from Apple demonstrating utilization of the rear surface of an iPod Touch while watching movies and playing games. Perhaps such technology would be better suited for the rumored tablet, as holding the tablet while invoking rear surface multitouch controls would be more logical for such a form factor.



Using one hand to manipulate the device makes some sense. The index finger of the hand that holds the device allows for scrolling through a list. However, without being able to determine what your finger is selecting may propose difficulties for full functionality, requiring the other hand to select a song or contact, etc.

I see this being useful as external iPod controls.

These are examples of people trying to justify (what would be) an asinine decision by Apple, because of a rumor that indicates it's possible.

God this would be such a terrible addition, I really hope they don't add this in.

This is someone who sees how stupid it is, and is able to reject it as the nonsense that it is. Why can't more people be rational instead of trying to justify retardation?
 
I remember seeing a patent of theirs a few years ago using touch gestures on the back of a device.Sounds interesting.Rather than predict it sucks and be shown how limited my imagination is,I'd be interested to see what they could do with it.
 
Why can't more people be rational instead of trying to justify retardation?

Because a certain Cupertino company has a habit of bringing us features that we didn't even knew we wanted.

I have faith (rooted in past experience) that what is delivered will work better than I anticipated.

In short - it will WORK.

(And I would be wary about the context of using the word retardation, especially when describing what you consider excessive advancement)
 
These are examples of people trying to justify (what would be) an asinine decision by Apple, because of a rumor that indicates it's possible.



This is someone who sees how stupid it is, and is able to reject it as the nonsense that it is. Why can't more people be rational instead of trying to justify retardation?

Goodness gracious!Such anger!A bit of advice:NEVER predict an Apple idea is retarded.You will be wrong at least 95% of the time.
 
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