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How would this work with the magnetic pencil? I was always told the "iPad" has this ridiculous dongle solution because there is no room to put both magsafe + camera on the side
The iPad 10’s Pencil doesn’t have a dongle, it has a charging/pairing cable; a dongle is something you need to use to draw with the Pencil.

Maybe they updated the hardware so there was space inside the bezel for both the pad and the camera; maybe they figured out how to shield the camera without moving the charging pad; or maybe they have a different solution like smaller pads on either side of the camera.
 
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I suspect I’m in the minority, but I always use my tablets in portrait mode, never landscape. I much prefer the camera in portrait to match.
Apple could easily support both, the hardware parts aren't that expensive, and it could simply switch in sync with screen orientation.
 
I prefer using my iPad in landscape mode when browsing the web but prefer portrait mode when using FaceTime. Why would they change this? Doesn't it make sense to have it in portrait mode to mimic the iPhone which is what 75% of all FaceTime calls are conducted on? Btw I made that number up, but again, the vast majority of iOS devices are iPhones and the most frequently used device for FaceTime I assume is the iPhone.
 
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But how do you sell macs? Thats why I doubt we ever see a hybrid.

Foldable would be dope.
You charge enough for the iPad Pros + keyboards to make it worth it and let the products cannibalize themselves to see which one people want more. This is how Jobs did it with the iPod.
 
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Can you image wanting to do something in MacOS but you cant because you didn’t bring your keyboard case. LOL
LOL, that would be hilarious 😆 That said, my iPad Pro 2020 is on the Magic Keyboard 90% of the time so unlikely to happen.
 
I prefer using my iPad in landscape mode when browsing the web but prefer portrait mode when using FaceTime. Why would they change this? Doesn't it make sense to have it in portrait mode to mimic the iPhone which is what 75% of all FaceTime calls are conducted on? Btw I made that number up, but again, the vast majority of iOS devices are iPhones and the most frequently used device for FaceTime I assume is the iPhone.
I feel your pain but you are in the minority. Every report I’ve read over the past few years indicates that the vast majority of iPad users operate in landscape mode 100 percent of the time. In fact, it doesn’t occur to me to use it in any other way.

And here’s the funny thing: Almost all of my FaceTime calls are on my iPad - or even Mac occasionally. I almost never use my iPhone for them. Perhaps that’s because whenever I don’t have access to my other devices, I’m usually in a situation in which I need to keep my eyes on something other than my phone (such as while driving) or a video call would be inappropriate.
 
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Hopefully the Apple Pencil would still magnetically attach, unlike the iPad 10th gen. Seemed like the camera internals broke that but you never know.
 
No reason to update from an air 4 or 5, like at all. Unless that camera is that important to you.
The camera is probably the only thing I really wish was different on my iPad Air 4... its the only thing it doesnt do well (video calling because of the ridiculous side positioning).
 
Landscape front camera is a must for Apple to keep customers happy! Many today are making podcasts and doing Zoom calls which need them focused on the center of the screen, plus having Center Stage is essential for many users. Keeping direct eye contact helps the viewer of the video or podcast feel like the content creator cares about them and desires to engage directly with them.
And many aren’t 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Finally. Only at least 4 years' late to the party. And just the 18 months since the bog standard 10th gen iPad got this basic but obvious....no no sorry, I can't even call it a "feature".

I'd love to know the near-impossible engineering barrier Apple nerds had to overcome to achieve this. My guess is it's the magnetic attachment (ignoring just moving it to the opposite 'bottom' edge obviously), meaning this new iPad will require a "new" Pencil, which of course will have a male USB-C port under its loose cap, to be inserted like the Pencil 1, and charge in classic seppuku mode.
 
Finally. Only at least 4 years' late to the party. And just the 18 months since the bog standard 10th gen iPad got this basic but obvious....no no sorry, I can't even call it a "feature".

I'd love to know the near-impossible engineering barrier Apple nerds had to overcome to achieve this. My guess is it's the magnetic attachment (ignoring just moving it to the opposite 'bottom' edge obviously), meaning this new iPad will require a "new" Pencil, which of course will have a male USB-C port under its loose cap, to be inserted like the Pencil 1, and charge in classic seppuku mode.

Of course the issue is the charging pad; its not near-impossible, don't be dramatic. If they move it to the short side, the Pencil blocks the speakers. So the solution is split pads and a new Pencil.
 
And – wait for it – a MacBook notch. Absolutely stunning, amazing, incredible! It’s like magic, a notch where you don’t need one! Wow!
 
And – wait for it – a MacBook notch. Absolutely stunning, amazing, incredible! It’s like magic, a notch where you don’t need one! Wow!
The iPad has bezels so you can hold it, no need for a notch. You don’t hold a MacBook by its screen. You can hide the MacBook notch so why are people still complaining about the extra screen space.
 
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Of course the issue is the charging pad; its not near-impossible, don't be dramatic. If they move it to the short side, the Pencil blocks the speakers. So the solution is split pads and a new Pencil.
Not dramatic, just sarcasm. The obvious and simplest solution would be to relocate the charging area to the bottom edge (a cleaner look IMO and doesn't interfere with keyboard case hinge as the iPad will be tilted forwards anyway), leaving the top free for a landscape camera.
 
Not dramatic, just sarcasm. The obvious and simplest solution would be to relocate the charging area to the bottom edge (a cleaner look IMO and doesn't interfere with keyboard case hinge as the iPad will be tilted forwards anyway), leaving the top free for a landscape camera.
The Pencil blocks the speakers on the top short side, and moving it to the bottom long side means it is incompatible with the Smart Keyboard and Smart Folios. This eliminates potential owners who don't want to buy the most expensive keyboard accessory.

I just simulated what you suggested with my 13” Magic Keyboard, and trying to grab the pencil from the bottom is really awkward. Bet the 11” Magic Keyboard is even worse.

FYI /s denotes sarcasm.
 
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The Pencil blocks the speakers on the top short side, and moving it to the bottom long side means it is incompatible with the Smart Keyboard. This eliminates potential owners who don't want to buy the most expensive keyboard accessory.
Nobody's suggesting the short sides. But it's only "incompatible with the Smart Keyboard" along the bottom in the sense that it doesn't close with the existing Pencil 2 in place. But it could still attach and charge when the SK is open.

Apple could incorporate a hinge gap to accommodate a Pencil when they update the SK as per the rumoured premium metal version, hopefully with illuminated keys as well.

Either way, whatever they do, it's long overdue.
 
It's only "incompatible with the Smart Keyboard" in the sense that it doesn't close with the existing Pencil 2 in place. But it could still attach and charge when the SK is open.

Apple could incorporate a hinge gap to accommodate a Pencil when they update the SK as per the rumoured premium metal version, hopefully with illuminated keys as well.
It’s incompatible with the Smart Keyboard and Smart Folio in the sense that the iPad’s bottom long side rests on them. You would not be able to have the Pencil attached to the iPad while using either of them.
 
It’s incompatible with the Smart Keyboard and Smart Folio in the sense that the iPad’s bottom long side rests on them. You would not be able to have the Pencil attached to the iPad while using either of them.
I have the SK (not the Folio) and when it's open and angled, the bottom edge is raised forward leaving sufficient space for an AP2 to attach beneath the bottom iPad case edge and the keyboard, without impeding on the latter's use. It's the "magically suspends in mid air" design feature.
 
I have the SK (not the Folio) and when it's open and angled, the bottom edge is raised forward leaving sufficient space for an AP2 to attach beneath the bottom iPad case edge and the keyboard, without impeding on the latter's use. It's the "magically suspends in mid air" design feature.
You have the Magic Keyboard, not the Smart Keyboard or Smart Folio. Would you say that your suggestion is compatible with this?

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