ok, I had never been a big photography or videography bug. A couple of years back, I bought the Flip Mino on a lark--these days I carry it with me most of the time, and it's been lots of fun, allowing me to record all kinds of good stuff. It's become a nice little hobby; I haven't gone nuts with it as I feared I might. For awhile now, I've been wondering what the next step up for a Flip user is in the portable camcorder category might be--basically, the camcorder that is almost as portable, almost as easy to use, not that much more expensive, and of course the models that are more Mac-friendly. Besides, now that Cisco is getting out of the Flip business altogether (to which I can only say, "Huh?"), it seemed like a good time to look around for something which would be a little more feature-ful, and let me stretch my knowledge with respect to shooting video and making my stuff look a little more professional. Thanks for any useful ideas.