Nexus 7 2013 not updating to Lollipop

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  1. Mildredop macrumors 68020

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    I've got a Nexus 7 (2013) wi-fi only tablet and it's still on 4.4.4. Software Update says it's up to date. Even my Moto X has now updated to Lollipop.

    Could anyone offer any suggestions as to why my Google device still won't update to the latest OS? I thought Nexus devices got the updates first. It's quite annoying having my phone and tablet on different OSes.
     
  2. AQUADock macrumors 65816

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    Did you root or modify the rom in any way because if you did Lollipop wont install. If you haven't then you will have to manually do it.
     
  3. JackieInCo macrumors 601

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    They are usually the first to get the updates but not always.

    I have a 2012 Nexus 7 on T-Mobile that still has not gotten the update. My Nexus 4 got it about a month ago. Both are stock with no modifications.
     
  4. MasterRyu2011 macrumors 65816

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    I'm assuming you're referring to the 2014 Moto X? My 2013 version still hasn't seen an L update.

    Either way, I went ahead and manually loaded Lollipop on my 2013 N7. I decided not to wait. It's working out great.
     
  5. mercuryjones macrumors 6502a

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    This is one of the main reasons I sold my Nexus device and went back to an iPad.
    If Google is going to state that the Nexus device updates are handled straight from Google, then these devices should be the first ones to get the new updates. However, it's a hit and miss thing.
     
  6. diamond.g macrumors 603

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    Very few folks like the device lottery system that Google uses for updates. Really the only time it works out is when there is a major bug found and they roll back a push, as usually the amount of devices that got the bum update would be small.

    But in terms of Manufacturers for Android devices Google typically does get the update out to Nexus devices before others. Motorola tends to be the odd company out since they have started using near stock ROMs.
     
  7. rhinosrcool macrumors 65816

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    My 2013 got updated to Lollipop a couple of weeks ago.
     
  8. verpeiler macrumors 6502a

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    Go to settings -> apps -> all, then stop google play services and google framework and delete cache.. worked for me the first time.
     
  9. JackieInCo macrumors 601

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    I remember I did this in order to upgrade my N7 and N4 to KitKat. I had to enter my accounts and passwords all over again. It took awhile to get everything back to what it was before doing this.
     
  10. verpeiler macrumors 6502a

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    I had to enter my google password again, but that's about it.
     
  11. three macrumors 6502a

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    Flash the latest system image if you feel comfortable. You'll lose all of your data but it is worth it. If you have a Windows PC or installation of it on your Mac, get the WugsFresh Nexus Root Toolkit, it makes live so much easier.
     
  12. mercuryjones macrumors 6502a

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    Thing is, you shouldn't have to. That's like saying - oh, you want the latest Windows update? Just download the ISO of Windows and do a fresh install. Sure, you'll lose all of your data and settings, but so what?
     
  13. MasterRyu2011 macrumors 65816

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    It's an option. You don't have to upgrade; but if you want to, and the OTA is not available, you have a choice. Personally, there is really nothing to save on my tablet anyway so it's never a hassle. Just backup the photos and music (not even, because i don't really horde mp3s), and you're all set.
     
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    Stooby Mcdoobie macrumors 6502a

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    Fwiw, you can flash an image without wiping data. You just need to edit the flash-all script, or simply omit the userdata partition if flashing manually.
     
  16. three macrumors 6502a

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    Good point! You remove the -w right?
     
  17. JackieInCo macrumors 601

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    And most people reading this would have no idea what you are even referring to or how to even go about doing this.
     
  18. Stooby Mcdoobie macrumors 6502a

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    Correct.

    And my post was not directed at most people -- only those who are interested in flashing.
     
  19. mi7chy macrumors 68040

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    Android with nearly 90% of the world's marketshare does staggered upgrades otherwise the internet breaks. As others have mentioned if you must have it sooner you can always go on XDA and sideload the OTA that someone else has already gotten or flash the full official image from Google. Don't see what the big deal is nor understand how someone doesn't know how to Google for basic info. When my iPad doesn't update to new iOS due to various reasons like update servers are bogged down or device running low on storage space I, too, have to Google how to do a full IPSW restore using iTunes.

    https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

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  20. mercuryjones macrumors 6502a

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    You do realize that a very small subset of that 90% get access to new updates at a time, right? Or, are you under the impression that Google makes the update available to all of them at once?
    What's funny is that Apple makes the update available to the majority of their devices at once, and the internet doesn't break. Sounds like your theory might be broken.
     
  21. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    Yes it's a nonsense theory on every level. From not understanding how Google distribute, how OEM's distribute and EOL devices, alongside the multitude of Carriers impacting things, and the many versions of Android that don't even have google services... The theory is it even ready for the mixing bowl let alone half baked...
     
  22. gotluck macrumors 603

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    I've always thought they did staggered releases to help with damage control with bugs

    I prefer apples wide rollouts
     
  23. mi7chy macrumors 68040

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    With a tiny footprint like iOS or Mac OSX it might not matter but for anything with a significant footprint it's common sense to do staggered updates which pretty much all respectable organizations do like carriers so they don't saturate their connectivity affecting not only data but also voice and sms, enterprises with OS and antivirus updates so they don't take down their WAN connections, etc. Even the electric utility companies do rolling blackouts. Apple could benefit too to avoid situations like iOS 8 update that broke cell service and touch id.
     
  24. mercuryjones macrumors 6502a

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    With an even tinier footprint, like the Nexus, Google should be able to handle a full rollout to all of the Nexus devices that can get the update. I mean, this is Google we are talking about. I'm pretty sure they can handle the bandwidth requirements. If they can't, then maybe they should be cataloging every user search and ad request.
    Unless you really don't think that Google can handle it, either from a data standpoint or a bug fix standpoint. I'm beginning to think that maybe they shouldn't be in charge of Android, if they can't handle either.
     
  25. MRU macrumors demi-god

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    Nexus 7 2013 not updating to Lollipop


    You have no notion of what 'tiny footprint' is if you think Apple IOS footprint / global sales are less than Google sales of Nexus devices, and yet Google can't even roll out the full suite of Nexus updates all at same time.

    Likewise if you believe it suddenly is going to 'break the Internet' by doing so and that this is even a consideration then you are being very naive.
     

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