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NFL Solicits Apple to Stream 'Thursday Night Football' Next Season

4jasontv said:
We live in Broncos country, but grew up in New England. Our first year here we missed all but one Pats game. So then we subscribed to Sunday Ticket via the PS4 when they made it available for customers who couldn't get their service. (Our HOA signed an exclusive deal with century link and Dish.) what happened? The Patriots either played Denver, Sunday night, or Monday or Thursday. None of which are available via the service due to blackout rules. We only watched one game on Sunday ticket.

I won't sign up for anything until I get live season pass for the teams I select. I don't care when it's on, or who they are playing.
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Weren't blackout rules recently removed? Was that only for specific cases of a blackout?
 
zyr123 said:
apple don't screw this up. I would give you 100$ a year to stream every nfl game
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Not happening. ATT already has the Sunday day game live streaming rights for many years to come. And it's a lot more than $100 a year. I can't think of any major league, large following sport that offers streaming for only a $100 a full year.
 
It begins... all these negotiations with traditional tv have kept breaking down, with all the old media companies convinced they were the big fish in the pond. But all the tech companies have to do is sit back and wait, and as the water drains out of that pond, & they'll come to you, to save them.

Apple should agree to stream it, but demand it be filmed in black & white, scored by a jazz pianist, and hosted by a pair of street poets, to class it up to Apple standards. Heh
 
NachoGrande said:
hmmm I still remember stream gate... not sure if I'd trust them. Get ready for the cable companies to start charging by the GB
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Since net neutrality passed, this will be coming. A buddy mine already pays by bit coming into/out of his house.
 
1Zach1 said:
Weren't blackout rules recently removed? Was that only for specific cases of a blackout?
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Yes. I think OP is confused. There are two different types of blackouts. The first is the one you are referring to, that a team's home game can't be broadcast if its not a sell out. That type of blackout is gone. The other is just a cable blackout when the local OTA broadcaster is also showing the game. So, for example, if the local CBS channel has the Pats game on then DirecTV has to black out the Sunday Ticket channel for that game.

But what I don't understand about OP's remark is that he is referring to non-Sunday day games which Sunday Ticket never covers. So the games he's talking about were not blacked out, they just were not available with the cable/local channels his HOA subscribed too. Odd though because Sunday is NBC, and a national broadcast. Monday is ESPN, which is on almost everyone's cable lineup. Thursdays is on CBS and NFL channel for first half of season. Second half just NFL channel.
 
So the NFL is basically saying "Hey everyone. We know we've ignored you for years but please come give us money!" I don't see why Apple would do this. Have they paid for any other streaming deals? As far as I can tell, their whole model seems to be the opposite. They let companies come to them and put content up on their app store. If those companies try to take subscriptions then Apple gets a cut. So again, why would Apple pay the NFL to put content on the Apple TV? That would be kind of unfair to everyone else. It would be like paying Microsoft to make office for iOS. I mean what??

I was a big football fan for years. Then we moved to a different city where I can't always get local broadcasts of my home team, the Chiefs. The prices just to watch at least a single team were atrocious because you have to buy this massive packages that lets you watch EVERY game. But then you get the package and you find out you can't always watch every game, and there are blackouts and other stupid crap that crop up from time to time. Why should this be my problem? I'm a football fan and want to at least follow my home team. It was ridiculously frustrating. We also cut the cord which makes things worse because trying to stream an NFL game is like pulling teeth unless you want to try some pirate stream on some shady website with a crappy bitrate and a ton of popup ads. So you know what I did? I said screw them all and stopped watching. I know this won't work for most people, but if more people did this they might notice. At least now I have my Sundays back (and Thursday and Monday nights—it's getting to be ridiculous) and don't always feel like I'm playing catch up with tasks at home.

Baseball is usually less of a hassle to watch, but still far from perfect. However I didn't have too much trouble following my Royals all the way to being World Series Champions!
 
This would be great! To correct the author, NFL Game Pass does not stream live games domestically... ONLY internationally... "NFL Game Pass" requires that you wait until ALL games for Sunday have concluded before you can view the games. Come On Man!
 
I don't get this at all. There are several broadcasters such as CBS and Sky News that have shown that you can stream live. I think CNN app does as well. So given this, why do they need anything other than to create an NFL app that has a live stream option (for an in-app fee if they want to monetize)? When are they going to go away from the old model? The ATV4 has changed the landscape; has no one noticed?
 
1Zach1 said:
Weren't blackout rules recently removed? Was that only for specific cases of a blackout?
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Not sure if the rule was removed, but even if they were, Sunday Ticket doesn't add value if a game is on a local broadcast. I am pretty sure non-Sunday games are still unavailable.
 
1Zach1 said:
I would hope that if the NFL did expand this to all games, not just Thursday, they could get around that.
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Get around what? This article is in regards to streaming and the blackout quote you referred to was regarding broadcast rights. Regardless, NFL has extremely lucrative contracts with the networks and ATT right now. It has no incentive to destroy the nature of its relationship with these parties right now. Maybe next bidding round, but I suspect NFL will continue to nibble around the edges when it comes to streaming. They money they make is too easy right now.
 
I hope this will also mean the end of Verizon's exclusive contract for NFL live streaming on smart phones. I could stream on my iPad with T-Mobile, but not my iPhone because of this.
 
Cuban Missles said:
I don't get this at all. There are several broadcasters such as CBS and Sky News that have shown that you can stream live. I think CNN app does as well. So given this, why do they need anything other than to create an NFL app that has a live stream option (for an in-app fee if they want to monetize)? When are they going to go away from the old model? The ATV4 has changed the landscape; has no one noticed?
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I COMPLETELY agree! I want a 100% streaming option... Without having to have a cable or satellite service. Let me have an NFL Subscription right on my ATV4...
 
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Cuban Missles said:
I don't get this at all. There are several broadcasters such as CBS and Sky News that have shown that you can stream live. I think CNN app does as well. So given this, why do they need anything other than to create an NFL app that has a live stream option (for an in-app fee if they want to monetize)?
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Licensing deals. Sweet ones at that. Broadcasters can not change the feed until a game is completed in its entirety, regardless of overtime play, once broadcast begins.
 
thisisnotmyname said:
Also, the DirecTV deal always seems to be cited as why live games can't come to streaming platforms, maybe Thursday night is some exception but this seems to imply that DirecTV exclusivity is on broadcast but not necessarily streaming delivery. I hope they expand game pass to live games, If they want to start charging $179/year (I think that's what Sunday Ticket is) for that I'd certainly pay it.
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Thursday Night Football is carried by NFL network, they are not related to anything on Sunday. It is a separate division that has its own power.

Yes, DirectTV has total streaming rights to the Sunday games for the US market only except for the Sunday Night Game, which again is a separate service that NFL made exclusive to NBC.

NFL is intentionally splitting games up to offer exclusive rights, so they can get more money from the broadcasters and they are splitting up both the broadcasting and streaming rights for the same games. Not to mention, they are splitting the regional markets as well, so no global market rights either.
 
4jasontv said:
Licensing deals. Sweet ones at that. Broadcasters can not change the feed until a game is completed in its entirety, regardless of overtime play, once broadcast begins.
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And would they change the feed if they streamed it in their own App? Not sure I get your point.
 
BJMRamage said:
I wouldn't mind an exact "copy" of the Televised TNF game. just to have the chance to check it out and see.
It would be neat to have "live stats" access as a pop up or something with a hit of a button or "up swipe"

I Missed the game(s) that were available to stream on Yahoo or somewhere earlier this season
Heck, include pre-season games as live or rewind for Free access too.


BUT YES...all this streaming means Comcast and others will charge more to access the Internet or by the GB. I think they should charge by the speed and you get unlimited. you want super speed, you pay more. no data limits.
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Now all we need is a national CCC-type of internet/power grid infrastructure update.
 
Please Apple jump on it. I'm over Directv the pricing is outrageous. They use to be great now its over priced and under delivered. Myself and all my family members cancelled the Directv Sunday Ticket. The NFL app sucks big-time, what a piece of crap that is. The Yahoo broadcast was excellent. It gave me hope of football in the future.
Apple, Help me cut the cord!!
 
Chupa Chupa said:
What does Sunday Ticket have to do with Thursday Night Football? o_O
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I believe it's a gateway and will open into Sunday at some point. Thursday will be first to go, then Monday, then Sunday afternoon, morning, and evening, based on viewership numbers IMO
 
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