Nightshift mode limited

jr866gooner

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Limited my foot....apparently only possible on 64 bit phones meaning those with a 5 or 5c miss out...what tosh just another ploy to limit a slightly older device.

It's not as if this feature is a headline one introduces on a shiny new phone now is it?!....
 

cableguy84

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A friend of mine says he spoke to a guy, he knew a guy . That guy said he spoke to Tim Cook.
Cook said nightshift takes up 90% of the iPhone's processing power when enabled.
That's why it's limited to 64 bit devices
 
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Nolander07

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Just like ad blockers require 64 bit- I don't know anything about it, but it seems like it's just a way to phase out 32 bit devices.
 

hugodrax

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You need 64bit to calculate the colors. single precision is not accurate enough to create the nightshift color scheme.
 

Nolander07

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Nothing "requires" 64bit. But once you've made the transition, you just don't bother to provide every new piece of code in old 32bit as well.
That's basically what I was trying to say, your statement makes more sense though.
 

tpham5919

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You need 64bit to calculate the colors. single precision is not accurate enough to create the nightshift color scheme.
I have to admit that graphic development isn't my strong suit. Can you elaborate the second statement? I thought that a 32-bit machine could support 16+ million color schemes. Is nightshift color scheme that complex?
 

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I have to admit that graphic development isn't my strong suit. Can you elaborate the second statement? I thought that a 32-bit machine could support 16+ million color schemes. Is nightshift color scheme that complex?
He lied. Apple just enjoys leaving out new features on older devices to get you to upgrade. F.lux worked perfectly on my 4S when it was jailbroken ... it has nothing to do with being 64-bit or not and everything to do with Apple simply not wanting to support older devices.
 

electronicsguy

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A friend of mine says he spoke to a guy, he knew a guy . That guy said he spoke to Tim Cook.
Cook said nightshift takes up 90% of the iPhone's processing power when enabled.
That's why it's limited to 64 bit devices
oh you mean Tim Cook, my neighbourhood barber?
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You need 64bit to calculate the colors. single precision is not accurate enough to create the nightshift color scheme.
I think you need to stop drinking cool-aid and learn something about tech.
 

C DM

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Latest technology is being used to design the latest features? Who would have thought?
 

tpham5919

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Latest technology is being used to design the latest features? Who would have thought?
I truly wanted to know as hugodrax may have some interesting background info to back up his/her statement. That's how I learn new things everyday anyway. Your vaguely sarcastic comment about some advanced technology is confusing and not really help provide the data point I'm looking for.
 

C DM

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I truly wanted to know as hugodrax may have some interesting background info to back up his/her statement. That's how I learn new things everyday anyway. Your vaguely sarcastic comment about some advanced technology is confusing and not really help provide the data point I'm looking for.
Perhaps it wasn't aimed at you or anything in particular that you might be discussing, given that more people are commenting about more things as well?

However, to turn that into a more specific response, the simpler explanation that more newer features will be built using more of the latest frameworks and libraries, more of which will be 64-bit only as that is where things have been heading for some time well beyond the mobile world, and within the mobile world as well, at the very least on iOS side, is basically what would more than likely apply.
 

tpham5919

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Perhaps it wasn't aimed at you or anything in particular that you might be discussing, given that more people are commenting about more things as well?

However, to address more of the comments in a more specific way, the simpler explanation that more newer features will be built using more of the latest frameworks and libraries, more of which will be 64-bit only as that is where things have been heading for some time well beyond the mobile world, and within the mobile world as well, at the very least on iOS side, is basically what would more than likely apply.
Perhaps. My apology.
 

Applejuiced

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At the iPhone hacks section.
Or to put it in simple words in order to make more money and entice people to upgrade their hardware.
In reality it has nothing to do with 32 or 64 bits.
Just as we been seeing for years. Same reason the original iPhone didn't get the mms capability update and the iPhone 4 didn't get Siri, iPhone 5 cannot do wifi calling etc etc...
 

joeblow7777

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Limited my foot....apparently only possible on 64 bit phones meaning those with a 5 or 5c miss out...what tosh just another ploy to limit a slightly older device.

It's not as if this feature is a headline one introduces on a shiny new phone now is it?!....
If I could some how give you my device's night shift ability I would. It's a useless feature as far as I'm concerned, and I doubt that Apple is withholding it from older devices to encourage upgrades because you are only the second person I've even encountered who even cared. It's a gimmick feature that Apple doesn't even bother to promote anymore. You're not missing anything revolutionary.
 

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If I could some how give you my device's night shift ability I would. It's a useless feature as far as I'm concerned, and I doubt that Apple is withholding it from older devices to encourage upgrades because you are only the second person I've even encountered who even cared. It's a gimmick feature that Apple doesn't even bother to promote anymore. You're not missing anything revolutionary.
It's not a gimmick whatsoever. I use it nightly and I've been using f.lux for years on jailbroken iDevices. It helps to prevent keeping me awake while looking at my phone at night. Just because it's not useful to you doesn't make it a gimmick ... and the small pool of people that you know personally does not equate to the hundreds of millions of iPhone users. I know it's shocking, but it's a feature that many people have wanted baked into iOS, including myself, for a long time now.
 
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Applejuiced

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At the iPhone hacks section.
It's not a gimmick whatsoever. I use it nightly and I've been using f.lux for years on jailbroken iDevices. It helps to prevent keeping me awake while looking at my phone at night. Just because it's not useful to you doesn't make it a gimmick ... and the small pool of people that you know personally does not equate to the hundreds of millions of iPhone users. I know it's shocking, but it's a feature that many people have wanted baked into iOS, including myself, for a long time now.
I agree.
To some it's a must have feature.
I know for years people will just jb their iphones and ipads just for the flux feature of the JB and stay JB on older ios version just to have that ability.
So not every feature or addition would be the same on every user.
Some will care less and others will count it as a must have upgrade.
 
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now i see it

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entice people to upgrade their hardware.
In reality
Exactly.
Apple does this all the time and it's understandable. Newer features are withheld from older devices all the time.

The ability to yellow shift the white point on a lcd screen has been around for more than a decade for the mac. Long before 64 bit.
Keeping a new feature away from older hardware is Apple's right. It's not like they can publicly admit they're deprecating old gear intentionally.

Remember, Phil Schiller saying that there are such and such millions of old PCs in use and that's just sad.

Sad for who? The computer manufacturers. Not us.
 
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