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Nikon D800 announced
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sapporobaby
macrumors 68000
Why would Nikon gut its high-end camera to fill a niche market? At the rates the D4 and D800 are being ordered, Nikon made the right decision to streamline their high-end product line.
The D3X lacked a D700 equivalent. Now there is a D4X equivalent in the D800.
The D700 was the D3 compact alternative launched later.
So now we are missing the D800H and the D4X.
sapporobaby
macrumors 68000
Hey dude. The guy is a troll. Don't bother to try and educate him. He is happy to be ignorant to facts...
Digital Skunk
macrumors G3
With the current models that we have on the market we will need to get either the D4, D3s, D3 or D300s to get more than 6fps. So if a shooter needs to be compact but still be able to get a burst of more than 6fps then the only option is the D300s.
If you need FX and you want more than 6fps then you are looking at the larger bodies.
It'd be nice to have a D3s lite (D800s) that could push 12-16MP at 8fps in a D800 body.
The D700 will be sold as long as there is demand, except in Japan, where the batteries are now forbidden.
The only thing is that it has no video mode.
compuwar
macrumors 601
D800H won't happen- there's never been an DNNNh model and I don't see Nikon wasting manufacturing capacity for yet another model, even if the only difference is the sensor.
D4x could happen.
Paul
Was there a DNNNe model before?
About wasted capacity, the D700 line could switch to D700s.
D800, D800E, and D800H could share a lot of the production capacity.
sapporobaby
macrumors 68000
Hey Paul,
Thanks for coming along and bringing sanity and realism to an otherwise, well never mind.
compuwar
macrumors 601
The e variant meets a technical need at a price premium that works. Each variant requires more decisions on parts as well as production processes. This is expensive- and would only make any sense at all if Nikon had excess production capacity on the D800 line where it would be cheaper to modify the line than to produce a new one. That's not the case and isn't likely to be the case for at least the next year.
I highly doubt the D700 will be sold much longer. It's not going to sell much more and I'd be surprised if the line weren't already changed to the D800 production line. Nikon has yet to produce multiple DNNN bodies at the same time, and while the margins are quite good there's little evidence to support high volumes of D700 bodies now the D800 is out.
Now if Nikon had produced the "modular sensor" camera Thom Hogan wanted a few years back, it'd be a slightly different story. But they didn't so it isn't.
The 5DIII comes out in April or May- likely to be announced on the 28th of this month. It sounds like it has the specs you want, so instead of illogical arguments as to why Nikon should produce a camera that it won't in the next year why not get one and shoot for a year?
Paul
sapporobaby
macrumors 68000
Game, set, match: Paul....
Side note, Paul, I have a few technical questions for you but I will send them via PM if you don't mind.
compuwar
macrumors 601
As long as you don't mind me trying to talk you into a print or two! 😉
Paul
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It's a public company, we can analyze their likely actions based upon lots of information; You could say "Only Nikon management knows if they should start selling Bratwurst!" However, the rest of us can be pretty certain they won't.
Paul
Some things are obvious, others are not.
Example of obvious failures: ditching your own successful platforms for Windows Phone.
compuwar
macrumors 601
So tell us, oh Guru- how were Nokia's sales right before the switch? Their long-term projections? The cost of updating Symbian, including any patent issues to keep it competitive? Everyone else is doing minimal development (no real coding, just customizing Android) other than Apple who has a premium brand- Nokia had three choices- be yet-another Android manufacturer, continue to pay to develop Symbian or go with MS. You want smartphone failures, look at RIM for the canonical example of corporate failure. I don't know why they didn't think they could compete using Android, but I'm betting the Symbian future was looking a lot like Palm's past- and the Palm OS was at one point quite successful.
More importantly in the Smart Phone world, getting developers to port their apps to Symbian to stay competitive was getting increasingly difficult given the huge market share posed by Apple and Google's OSs combined.
Nokia avoided RIM's year by switching-- that's bought them some time for sure.
Paul
sapporobaby
macrumors 68000
Paul, you realize that you are wasting your time dealing with this non-sensicle troll? Your arguments have blasted him out of the water and as normal, he then goes off on another tangent. Might want to add him to your ignore list.
As for the prints, let's talk dude. 🙂
flosseR
macrumors 6502a
Paul, it took me a while to realize this as well, sapporobaby is right.. feeding the troll is very apparent now... look at the threads of the d800h as well. absolutely pointless. He/she should go get a 5d mk3 and let everyone else get one with their business instead of wasting everyone's time by veering from nikon's strategy planning, to whining, to Nokia's Windows phone strategy? WTF!
BTW, I use a windows phone and you know what, I like it! 🙂
Just before ditching Symbian and Meego:
- Symbian smartphone sales were double as that of the second, Apple.
- They were growing smartphone sales, profits, and ASP.
- They had a higher featurephone-to-smartphone conversion rate than the average of the industry.
- They had a new hit Symbian phone.
- The new platform, Meego, was ready.
- There was a migration path to the new platform for developers, Qt.
- The new platform phone was getting rave previews.
- Ovi Store was second to the Apple App Store
- Nokia was one of the top ten global brands.
- Microsoft and Windows are bad brands. Most people don't buy Windows because they want. Nobody needs a Windows phone.
sapporobaby
macrumors 68000
1. Wrong. They dumped Symbian because it was failing in the Smartphone end, not the S40 feature phones. Get a clue.
2. See point number one but without the profit and ASP. You are still clueless.
3. Pure FUD. You are showing how little you know with each successive post.
4. What hit phone was that? The N8? The E7 was a bust, and after that Nokia didn't bother.
5. I have a Meego phone, N9 and it is not ready nor will it ever be. Again, you show how little you know, which is close to nothing.
6. Ovi was actually launched well before the App Store but it went no where and was a disaster. Saying it was second behind the App Store is useless because it was there before the Android Store or the MS app store. Again a wasted and useless post. Still waiting for you to post something relevant.
7. Nokia is still a top 10 globally known brand but fading fast. You get half a point for finally getting something almost correct.
8. The WP7 is pretty good. I am dumping my N9 to get a Lumia to have as a backup phone to my iPhone 4S. Sorry but you lose your half a point for once again talking crap.
To sum it up, you have no clue about anything you've posted here. Leave it alone and let those in the know work things out. You are way in over your head, as usual.
Unlike you, I back my post up with facts, note the photo attached....
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The solution for a decline in the #1 platform market share is not to switch to the incompatible Windows Phone, which has minimum appeal.
sapporobaby
macrumors 68000
I am just curious but can anybody explain me why 36 megapixels is needed? Also the resolution being 7360 x 4912 is there a screen out there that can even display currently?
Looks like a great product and great to keep the competition with canon up.
Looks like a great product and great to keep the competition with canon up.
TheReef
macrumors 68000