I appreciate that even with 6 albums, I somehow don't have the NIN education that you have because I don't have one album. *snore*
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I appreciate that even with 6 albums, I somehow don't have the NIN education that you have because I don't have one album. *snore*
FAIL. TRY AGAIN.
I agree completely. Oh no, don't get me wrong, all that extraneous stuff is great if you have nothing else going on in your own life that you can sit around and obsess about the minute goings-on of someone elses life. TR takes himself seriously, and of course his fans do as well, just as fans of the Stones obsessed about a million stories of Charlie Watt's dignified swings at his raunchier bandmates and Peter Grants rewrestling of the way labels handled bands, etc... and on and on and on...
But at the end of the day, it's still just pop music. He was not the first word in electronic music, he won't be the last, and in the mean time, he seems to have forgotten how to write music people actually want to sit down and listen to. Somehow, I just don't see the future generations of this earth looking back with the clarity of hindsight and with reverence, uttering "Brahms, Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin, Reznor".
Idol worship directed at musicians just seems pretty lame once you're past about 13, considering how much amazing and truly revolutionary work is actually going on in real life these days.
All that said, I did the same thing with Pink Floyd when I was 13. Obsessed with the horrendous sounds of loosely orchestrated screeching machinery blasted at unsuspecting audiences in the late 60's while everyone was singing beach boys ditties. Pretty silly in retrospect tho.
...and that song is pretty clever, k'five.
This is literally the dumbest comment you could have possibly posed. Aside from their first album, which I'd classify as dog food, Nickelback's music is pure garbage. I mean really. Listen to their lyrics.
Which is one of the many things that makes them so good. They're willing to work with such a broad spectrum of artists and those artists are willing to work with them. Some people complain about them not sounding the same and that's obviously attributed to collaboration with different people from different genres. Some people embrace change, others fear it. I, for one, am a fan of all of their music. And I'm not "angsty" or "emo" in any way.
Great point. If you don't like the band, move on. Yes, everybody is entitled to their opinion but what difference does it really make to the fans if you N' Sync or Rolling Stones fans don't like Trent Reznor's style?
Disagree, as I'm sure many others will as well. Again, opinion.
Horrible comparison. Is Trent Reznor a classical artist? Given he's extremely talented on the piano I still don't think this is a relevant argument.
You're not human. Pink Floyd is anything but what you labeled them above.
Do we really care about NIN? Aren't we just publishing what some PR machine thinks we should get excited about? Some "band" from back when? I put "band" in quotes because isn't NIN just one guy who hires others for whatever commercial task is at hand? Anyway, I expect to see the NINs guy on the celebrity Apprentice soon or maybe showing his cool app to the Housewives of NY. By the way, I think it's great he has some app I just don't think we need to spend valuable pixels on it.
NIN does things like this for the fans. For example, giving out the last album as a free download, free multi-tracks of the songs and a space to upload remixes, personalized presale tickets so that tickets go to fans instead of scalpers, 400GB of hi-definition video footage of their last 3 shows last year, etc.
The app isn't going to cost any money, and the point isn't to get non-fans exited, but to allow fans to chat on a mobile device, and make it easier than trying to view the NIN.com forums on a normal mobile browser, which doesn't look very good.
The app isn't going to cost any money, and the point isn't to get non-fans exited, but to allow fans to chat on a mobile device, and make it easier than trying to view the NIN.com forums on a normal mobile browser, which doesn't look very good.
Ok, for old times sake, I went and grabbed an old [non-copyrighted recording]. Get your headphones on for some middle-era Floyd.
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=f52a54096612944b5a3d773badf21430e04e75f6e8ebb871
and that's not even touching on The Man & The Journey "performances", or good god, early Syd Barrett creations.
Textures. Dynamics. Lots of noise. Noise everywhere. Then, beauty.
A big lolz at the posters who say Trent Reznor is no longer relevant in the world of music. In fact, he's is revolutionizing our access to artists' music as we speak. And this has absolutely nothing to do with the music he makes. Even if you hate his music and think it is garbage, he is a trailblazer of today's music.
First, for his album Year Zero, he was depositing flash drives with new songs on them in European bathrooms during his tour. Not only did these drives have new songs on them, they gave clues to for an Alternative Reality Game (ARG), such as names for websites hidden in code. Even tour t-shirts has codes hidden on them. This was very fun and a completely innovative way to market an album. Most artists just have the record company dump out an album and make posters. However, trent paid for this type of marketing with his very own money - because he cared about the album's listener experience. If he actually just scrapped the ARG, he likely would have made more profit.
Then, he began giving away the multitracks of his songs for free. This encourage amateur, everyday folk, the ability to remix his songs using Garage Band to make them however they wanted. No other artist today does this. Additionally, as someone has pointed out, he has given fans over 400GB of raw HD concert footage (for free), to make their own concert DVDs.
Next, he compiled a huge amount of evidence that greedy record companies are not needed. He successfully aided Saul Williams in selling his album, Niggy Tardust, over the net without a label. He then gave 2 albums away over the net. Ghosts was put out in many different quality versions; from mp3 to limited, autographed box sets for $350. This allowed all type of fans to enjoy his music, regardless of financial standing (something radiohead did not do). 2500 of them were made and they sold out within hours. You do the math to see how much he made just from the box sets alone. He then gave The Slip away for free, with the option of buying a hard copy (for a reasonable price) that had a DVD in it.
The new NIN App is just another innovation (of many) he has done over the last 5 years. Sure, I probably don't want to chat with some random fan in Uganda, but if we are sent other treats (wallpapers, songs, or videos), then sign me up.
First, for his album Year Zero, he was depositing flash drives with new songs on them in European bathrooms during his tour. Not only did these drives have new songs on them, they gave clues to for an Alternative Reality Game (ARG), such as names for websites hidden in code. Even tour t-shirts has codes hidden on them. This was very fun and a completely innovative way to market an album. Most artists just have the record company dump out an album and make posters. However, trent paid for this type of marketing with his very own money - because he cared about the album's listener experience. If he actually just scrapped the ARG, he likely would have made more profit.
Then, he began giving away the multitracks of his songs for free. This encourage amateur, everyday folk, the ability to remix his songs using Garage Band to make them however they wanted. No other artist today does this. Additionally, as someone has pointed out, he has given fans over 400GB of raw HD concert footage (for free), to make their own concert DVDs.
Next, he compiled a huge amount of evidence that greedy record companies are not needed. He successfully aided Saul Williams in selling his album, Niggy Tardust, over the net without a label. He then gave 2 albums away over the net. Ghosts was put out in many different quality versions; from mp3 to limited, autographed box sets for $350. This allowed all type of fans to enjoy his music, regardless of financial standing (something radiohead did not do). 2500 of them were made and they sold out within hours. You do the math to see how much he made just from the box sets alone. He then gave The Slip away for free, with the option of buying a hard copy (for a reasonable price) that had a DVD in it.
The new NIN App is just another innovation (of many) he has done over the last 5 years. Sure, I probably don't want to chat with some random fan in Uganda, but if we are sent other treats (wallpapers, songs, or videos), then sign me up.
How can you write this sentence, but then own an Apple product? Apple is totally about hype and marketing. Most of the products Apple sells are geared towards producing new revenue streams for them. Examples; you need to buy a Mac to produce iPhone apps, the iPhone only allows you to directly buy/DL music from iTunes and not alternative sources, the iPod industry is driving Apple's iTunes profits (in pretty much the same way razors drive razor blade sales), you can only use the new Shuffle with Apple-sold earphones, the new iTunes sells new music lessons through iTunes, you can only load Apps sold through iTunes onto your iPhone (just imagine if you could only load mp3s onto your iPod that are sold through iTunes only?), MobileMe (no explanation needed here), the list goes on...
So don't complain about people putting out hype/marketing machines when Apple is the very epitome of this business model.
So I'm noticing I didn't get referenced in this Macrumors story at all.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/681989/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/681989/
No, but if you haven't noticed, here on Macrumors, articles recognised by the site bots generally have some note about the people who bring them up attached, and in this case, I post a thread about this very topic with a link long before the site gets to it, and it just gets ignored. I don't really care all that much, I was just wondering why my thread couldn'tve been added to instead of a completely new one being opened.
FYI, this app is now in the app store under the name "NIN: Access".
Links to download it, and to the web component of the experience are here.
The "Nearby" function essentially seems to be Twinkle. However, given that the user base is one with two very large shared interests -- the band and location -- it's rather fascinating. A lot can grow from here...
Links to download it, and to the web component of the experience are here.
The "Nearby" function essentially seems to be Twinkle. However, given that the user base is one with two very large shared interests -- the band and location -- it's rather fascinating. A lot can grow from here...