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all the jealous comments on this board are hilarious...

heh! no kidding! the know-it-alls love to rip on others' accomplishments. cuz, you know, the IIgs version toooootalllly had the ability to be shaken to erase the picture. no, really! it was like one of them, how you say...etchy sketchy thingies. :rolleyes:
 
all the jealous comments on this board are hilarious...
I don't understand the habit of dismissing any questioning of an alleged success as "jealousy". It happens most commonly when people discuss whether someone earned their wealth - there's always someone who crawls out of the woodwork with the ad hominem "you're just jealous!" as if this even addresses the argument. I've had my fair 15 minuteses of fame for my successes as a younger lad, and now I look back and think I was an immodest, arrogant irritant. Anyway, end of prologue.

The issue here is that this article celebrates mediocrity. The world already has a low enough expectation of the mind of the child, and when it sets the bar so cheap for other children, those who were genuinely doing brilliantly are discouraged, while those hitherto lackadaisical will only remain so. I know I'd have done better as a boy if I hadn't been told I was doing brilliantly at something when, in fact, I wasn't. It is too easy to impress the average. See also: the UK secondary school exam system, etc.
 
I don't understand the habit of dismissing any questioning of an alleged success as "jealousy". It happens most commonly when people discuss whether someone earned their wealth - there's always someone who crawls out of the woodwork with the ad hominem "you're just jealous!" as if this even addresses the argument. I've had my fair 15 minuteses of fame for my successes as a younger lad, and now I look back and think I was an immodest, arrogant irritant. Anyway, end of prologue.

The issue here is that this article celebrates mediocrity. The world already has a low enough expectation of the mind of the child, and when it sets the bar so cheap for other children, those who were genuinely doing brilliantly are discouraged, while those hitherto lackadaisical will only remain so. I know I'd have done better as a boy if I hadn't been told I was doing brilliantly at something when, in fact, I wasn't. It is too easy to impress the average. See also: the UK secondary school exam system, etc.

Bingo.
I put it down to certain internet groups just enjoy using the word "hater" and try to shoehorn it into a message to anyone expressing the slightest doubt.
 
I considered that possibility but deemed it was too low probability to need to account for. Considering the guy is a developer I assume he likes to develop for machines that are still being sold. So it's actually more likely that he wrote the code closer to 1986 when it was introduced then when it was discontinued. Regardless the point was to establish that the father authored the "original" version, a point which I don't believe you are disputing. So your post appears to be an exercise in silly nit picking it self. We can pretend it was a clever (and deliberate) way of driving the point home.

Your assumption is wrong. As a kid I tinkered around with old machines all the time. Just because you find it useless doesn't change the likelihood of this kid or anyone else developing on a IIgs recently.

And for the record, it isn't pretending to be clever but is instead arguing. But feel free to claim your assumptions are fact and to use anecdotes as your only line of support. It is cute.
 
I don't understand the habit of dismissing any questioning of an alleged success as "jealousy". It happens most commonly when people discuss whether someone earned their wealth - there's always someone who crawls out of the woodwork with the ad hominem "you're just jealous!" as if this even addresses the argument. I've had my fair 15 minuteses of fame for my successes as a younger lad, and now I look back and think I was an immodest, arrogant irritant. Anyway, end of prologue.

The issue here is that this article celebrates mediocrity. The world already has a low enough expectation of the mind of the child, and when it sets the bar so cheap for other children, those who were genuinely doing brilliantly are discouraged, while those hitherto lackadaisical will only remain so. I know I'd have done better as a boy if I hadn't been told I was doing brilliantly at something when, in fact, I wasn't. It is too easy to impress the average. See also: the UK secondary school exam system, etc.

veri, you're comment reads extremely bitter. what you are judging as being mediocre others may not think so. it's subjective and becoming better takes practice and encouragement.
 
and i wrote this silly thing 9-year-old creates iPhone hit

What's lame is that this stupid app wasn't even in the top 50 until after the article. So how is it a hit? It's just the news creating the news.

That was another thing I noticed. 4,000 downloads over a two week period is nothing amazing for the app store. After seeing the numbers that some developers have shared with us, 4,000 downloads in that time frame don't get you close to the top 50.
 
veri, you're comment reads extremely bitter.
Again with the ad hom. Ah well, could be worse, last week I was entertained with a, "you're probably saying that because you're black and paranoid". Just as discussions on race inevitably end up with one side conjecturing on the colour of the other, I guess discussions on achievement always end up with the "OMG bitter!" I'd hoped to avoid it by predicting it, but no ;-).

what you are judging as being mediocre others may not think so. it's subjective
"Well it's all subjective anyway" effectively allows the admission and rejection of every single conclusion. Why don't we make a feel-good article out of each child's first word, or the first time he scored full marks on a test? I still assert that is a celebration of mediocrity to take something that many have done and portray it as uniquely brilliant. If you think he made a unique technical achievement - for his age, or whatever - then justify it.

and becoming better takes practice and encouragement.
Yes! And it doesn't encourage the hordes of young programmers nurturing exceptional theoretical or technical ability to have one kid picked out merely because, ostensibly through the efforts of his father(*), he's published to the current Hot Thing: the App Store. How about more news coverage on talented and hard-working potential mathematicians, scientists, or linguists? Many such express their abilities through interesting programming, but run-of-the-mill programming per se is as learning to use a DIY toolset: not special.

On second thoughts, the story might at least encourage nascent agents and marketing consultants - uhoh :D.

(*) Not that obvious help from the folks precludes a story: consider Sarah Flannery.
 
I wish I knew a 9-year old who could do all this. The only 9 year olds I know are too busy sponging their brains with the disney channel and wanting to be the next american idol. Hell I would even settle for a 9-year old who copies his dads programming ideas, because as I said before most of the 9 year olds I know are playing xbox 360 and prone to obesity. I blame the parents..it all starts when they're young
 

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Your assumption is wrong. As a kid I tinkered around with old machines all the time. Just because you find it useless doesn't change the likelihood of this kid or anyone else developing on a IIgs recently.

And for the record, it isn't pretending to be clever but is instead arguing. But feel free to claim your assumptions are fact and to use anecdotes as your only line of support. It is cute.

Ah, like your anecdote of tinkering around with old machines when you were a kid?

This seems to be a pattern where you accuse me of something that you demonstrate only sentences before the accusation. I'm sure it's some sort of psychological thing that is well defined but I didn't major in psych so I'm not familiar with the particular terminology that matches your behavior. It probably doesn't require medication, not to worry.

pro tip: this thread is now about flaming and reliving your dorky youth
 
Hell I would even settle for a 9-year old who copies his dads programming ideas, because as I said before most of the 9 year olds I know are playing xbox 360 and prone to obesity.


Yes, because sitting around using the computer to program stuff really helps prevent obesity... lol

Just sayin'.
 
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