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When you're summoned to Tim's office and he glares at you like this, at best you're fired, at worst you're sued.
Under that stare, I'd be more concerned about melting than being fired or sued.

That said... Unpopular opinion but I don't care: I think he's a great CEO and a very impressive person.
 
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The giant corporation, because they have a policy, and the employee willingly agrees to that policy as part of their hiring. If you don’t LIKE the policy, then work your way up and change it or leave, but don’t just violate the agreement you agreed to.

Frankly, if your signature on a business document doesn’t matter to you, why the hell should anyone employ you at all? I know I wouldn’t do business with such a person, since their word is meaningless.
Tell me "rich people with all the power should set the rules of our economy" without telling me rich people with all the power should set the rules of our economy.
 
Tell me "rich people with all the power should set the rules of our economy" without telling me rich people with all the power should set the rules of our economy.

I’ve actually come to the conclusion that there is a sizable percentage of the world population that wants to live in that way for some reason.

Maybe it’s because they foresee themselves as being on the “rich person side of the equation” at some point?

It’s very odd to me.
 
I’ve actually come to the conclusion that there is a sizable percentage of the world population that wants to live in that way for some reason.

Maybe it’s because they foresee themselves as being on the “rich person side of the equation” at some point?

It’s very odd to me.
A great point. Maybe you know this quote?

“John Steinbeck once said that socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”

― Ronald Wright, A Short History of Progress
 
A great point. Maybe you know this quote?

“John Steinbeck once said that socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”

― Ronald Wright, A Short History of Progress

Yes! That .. exactly that. 👆

By the time so many realize "that ain't them" .. the game is largely over.
 
This is the kind of thing Apple bought with their fealty and that golden turd. It’s disgraceful

One key aspect of fascism is special treatment for those who uphold it and comply. Tim Cook is a fool

I honestly think the same result would have happened had Harris won. In my opinion, this investigation was farcical.

That said, those of you who disagree with me about that have every right to question whether or not it was dismissed for legitimate reasons. It’s entirely possible it was dismissed for the wrong reasons, even if my interpretation is correct and it shouldn’t have been opened in the first place.
 
Trump is crooked and is weaponizing the law. Doesn't mean that the Democrats were not.

The "Russiagate" was a perfect example of abusing state powers to get rid of a political opponent under a fabricated premise.

The party in power hired a foreign company to write a hit peace without a single shred of evidence, then used that hit piece to justify using the state security services to wiretap the opponent's campaign, and using the judicial system to investigate the opponent and anyone around him in what was clearly a fishing expedition. All in order to, essentially, stage a political coup.

And I agree that Biden didn't personally oversee most things, as he was busy shaking hands with imaginary people or otherwise being mentally unfit to function, the fact that was hidden by the Democratic Party and most of the media. He was clearly just used as a puppet, and this in itself was a criminal conspiracy against the American people.

Don't try to pretend that the rot is only limited to one side.
Bothsidesism isn't an argument. It results in posts like these where you have to re-write history to even out the sides.

Here's the non-conspiracy theory version of your "Russiagate" story. Clinton hired a firm that had already been investigating 45 for a conservative donor. At this point the firm hired Steele who put together what was clearly presented as raw, unverified intelligence. After the election, Republican John McCain asked the Republican-led FBI to investigate the claims after encouragement from Republican Lindsay Graham. This lead to the Republican DOJ appointing a Republican special prosecutor.

On the other hand, 47 said he wanted to punish his political enemies, ordered the DOJ to punish his political enemies, fired prosecutors who wouldn't bring charges against his political enemies, and appointed new prosecutors who brought charges a few days later.

But you think both sides are the same?
 
The National Labor Relations Board in 2021 thought that warning employees against releasing classified information was in violation of people's rights ?

Was this actually a serious lawsuit ?
There was a nice episode of the Freakonomics podcast, it was about one Asian American guy that has been writing about China.
One of the main topic he remarked was: “China is run by engineers, the US is run by lawyers”. One is trying to optimize away social, financial, etc problems. The other is reacting through litigation to them. The latter does make everybody scared of trying anything as it will wake the ire of the closest group of lawyers.

Not saying one of them is right or wrong or perfect, but news like these does bring the point home about that remark.
 
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Capitalism is not a democracy. It is an authoritarian system whereby employees work according to the dictates of the CEO. Yes, the CEO must adhere to regulatory and contractual obligations but in the United States those obligations are pretty loose. Heck, even our constitutional Government has NDA's.
This is the truth. The loose US laws allow companies to literally do whatever they want without any consequences. Or even if they do, the consequences are ridiculously minor it is laughable and doesn’t bat an eye. The system is designed to fail right from the start so big money can be easily earned with zero effort, all the while average people struggle to survive.
 
Beautifully and clearly stated @spyguy10709

I hope more people realize what actually happened here.

It's going to become more and more conflicting for Apple fans and users who aren't also MAGA, as Tim is blurring those lines, horrifically so.
Oh god. Do you say Tim wants to turn all Americans into MAGA supporters so he can unilaterally influence the entire population?
 
Oh god. Do you say Tim wants to turn all Americans into MAGA supporters so he can unilaterally influence the entire population?

Oh, nothing like that.
He’s just willing to cozy up to Trump.

In normal times, this would be business as usual with an administration, but these have become very abnormal times…and it’s just getting going.

If Tim isn’t careful, he’s going to outright be on the wrong side of history here, with Apple in tow.

To be clear, there are no easy answers here, but I had hoped Tim would perhaps not capitulate so embarrassingly and publicly.
 
Oh, nothing like that.
He’s just willing to cozy up to Trump.

In normal times, this would be business as usual with an administration, but these have become very abnormal times…and it’s just getting going.

If Tim isn’t careful, he’s going to outright be on the wrong side of history here, with Apple in tow.

To be clear, there are no easy answers here, but I had hoped Tim would perhaps not capitulate so embarrassingly and publicly.
I think he has already chose to be on the wrong side of history. It’s just that the wrong side of history isn’t over yet, so everyone eager to survive will cozy up to Trump, aka, rushing to the wrong side of history to survive. And of course for Trump supporters shame isn’t something they care about anyways.
 
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Under that stare, I'd be more concerned about melting than being fired or sued.

That said... Unpopular opinion but I don't care: I think he's a great CEO and a very impressive person.
Yeah, I guess you're right. This Cook guy can bake you up just with his eyes.
 
I’ve actually come to the conclusion that there is a sizable percentage of the world population that wants to live in that way for some reason.

Maybe it’s because they foresee themselves as being on the “rich person side of the equation” at some point?

It’s very odd to me.

Nobody loves billionaires more than an uneducated citizen making $40,000 a year who think that they, too, will soon be joining their ranks!
 
No, it was a losing case. Reminding employees not to leak trade secrets and product plans is perfectly normal and claiming it’s some kind of microaggression or some such is stupid.
Yes but the issue was people leaking details about what had been discussed during meetings about staffing arrangements such as WFH. Thus, it wasn't about trade secrets (which IMO would be more clearcut).
 
Seems many here would have preferred Cook not meeting with trump. And would have gladly accepted and paid increased prices due to the tariffs that would have been imposed on Apple products manufactured overseas as a result - without complaint.
 
Seems many here would have preferred Cook not meeting with trump. And would have gladly accepted and paid increased prices due to the tariffs that would have been imposed on Apple products manufactured overseas as a result - without complaint.
I definitely would have preferred that Cook didn't bribe the president.
 
Bothsidesism isn't an argument. It results in posts like these where you have to re-write history to even out the sides.

Here's the non-conspiracy theory version of your "Russiagate" story.

This is actually the conspiracy theory version because it ignores the most reasonable explanation.

Clinton hired a firm that had already been investigating 45 for a conservative donor.
It doesn't matter whether the donor was conservative or liberal, as there was opposition to Trump's candidacy on both sides of the aisle. What matters it that the party in power paid some obscure foreign private company to write what was essentially an essay / opinion piece, then used that opinion piece to issue a wiretap warrant against their political opponent. There's no amount of spin you can put on this to make it look like anything but gross abuse of power.

At this point the firm hired Steele who put together what was clearly presented as raw, unverified intelligence.
There wasn't any "raw, unverified intelligence" as in "classified intelligence reports provided by state intelligence services (such as CIA or their Five Eyes colleagues) whose job it is to provide intelligence to state governments". It was essentially a free form essay full of unsubstantiated claims with no evidence, written by a shady private firm in another country that was covertly hired for this one purpose of writing that essay, without getting any official state intelligence services involved. A foreign pen-for-hire that would write what they were paid to write. A highly unusual way for a US government to collect intelligence on an American political figure. Call it what it was, a paid hit piece.

If Trump paid a private firm in Hungary to write a similar hit piece based on unsubstantiated claims about the next Democratic candidate, and then used that report to wiretap that candidate's campaign and launch a fishing-trip investigation into everyone around them, I am sure you'd be livid - and so would I. Because this is classic abuse of power.

After the election, Republican John McCain asked the Republican-led FBI to investigate the claims after encouragement from Republican Lindsay Graham. This lead to the Republican DOJ appointing a Republican special prosecutor.

All it proves is that there was strong desire to keep Trump out of the Oval Office on both sides of the aisle.

On the other hand, 47 said he wanted to punish his political enemies, ordered the DOJ to punish his political enemies, fired prosecutors who wouldn't bring charges against his political enemies, and appointed new prosecutors who brought charges a few days later.

But you think both sides are the same?
Yes, I think both sides used the same tactics, just one side being more smooth / covert about this.

Trump is crooked. Obama and Hillary were crooked. Trump is using open intimidation to force the state powers to go after his political enemies. Obama and Hillary used covert shady tactics to force the state powers to go after their political enemy. You're basically arguing that because they tried to maintain an outward appearance of propriety therefore it's OK. I don't see it that way.
 
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I definitely would have preferred that Cook didn't bribe the president.

And you wouldn't have complained at all on this forum if your next iPhone or MacBook Pro jumped up significantly in price. Right?

Or would have purchased an Android phone and HP laptop, instead.
 
This is actually the conspiracy theory version because it ignores the most reasonable explanation.
Cynicism isn't reason. You believe that there was a conspiracy without evidence of the conspiracy. That's a conspiracy theory. What I said simply was a factual description of events.

All it proves is that there was strong desire to keep Trump out of the Oval Office on both sides of the aisle.
Hah! Your entire point was that it was the Democrats! You seem to be ignoring how much it was driven by Republicans, including some appointed by 45, in order to fit your "both sides" argument. Republicans found the information credible enough for an investigation, especially in the context of other unrelated counter-intelligence info.

And you wouldn't have complained at all on this forum if your next iPhone or MacBook Pro jumped up significantly in price. Right?

Or would have purchased an Android phone and HP laptop, instead.
Sure, but I would have blamed the illegal tariffs, not the lack of an illegal bribe. Why is this controversial? Are you arguing that a CEO has a responsibility to break the law if it will lower prices!?!?!
 
Cynicism isn't reason. You believe that there was a conspiracy without evidence of the conspiracy. That's a conspiracy theory. What I said simply was a factual description of events.
No, I am telling you that secretly hiring an obscure foreign firm to write a hit piece, then using that hit piece as en excuse to wiretap and investigate a political rival, is a textbook example of abuse of state power by the ruling government. You're welcome to believe what you want, call it "a conspiracy theory", and come up with multiple excuses why this was a perfectly normal thing to do. It still wasn't.

Hah! Your entire point was that it was the Democrats! You seem to be ignoring how much it was driven by Republicans, including some appointed by 45, in order to fit your "both sides" argument. Republicans found the information credible enough for an investigation, especially in the context of other unrelated counter-intelligence info.

Remind me again, what party was in power, controlling the White House, the American government, and the state security services?

Some Democrats like Fetterman support many of Trump's policies, would you say that his crooked actions are the work of both parties?

I am not trying to change your mind - this is absolutely impossible, in my experience. I am merely telling you how I see this, based on all the information that I read.

I think the worst thing that is happening to this country is that ideology now drives everything. "Moderate" and "compromise" are swear words on both sides. But only moderates who are able to compromise and don't see anyone not with them as being against them can make the society work. The left wing Taliban are just as bad as the right wing Taliban.
 
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