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TheRealAlex

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The new M2 iPad Pro and respective M2 products have No AV1 decode or encode support they are unarguably and irrevocably dead on arrival. Sure they are good boomer email machines. But that’s it.

I wont be buying an M2 iPad Pro if there even is one. My deal breakers are

AV1 encode and decode.
WiFi 6E
Bluetooth 5.3
Mini-LED OR QDOLED Display with 120hz VRR
12GB LPDDR5 RAM (really fast RAM same chip that’s in the Galaxy S22 Ultra)
3nm new TSMC die for the M3
 
Idk why as an apple device user you need AV1 encoding that desperately. Just use H.264 or H.265, those paid standards are just as good as AV1, which is relatively new.

I will certainly not lose my sleep over missing out on AV1 hardware encoder. In fact, I doubt apple would ever bother to support AV1 encoding/decoding given their fiercely hostile stance towards FOSS community.
 
IIRC, Youtube uses AV1 now and this is done with software decoding on Apple Silicon Macs (someone please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm no expert). I do notice the uptick in CPU usage when watching Youtube videos (which is to be expected with software decoding), but the power consumption is negligible and the efficiency cores seem to do an excellent job handling it.

Would it be nice to have hardware decoding? Of course, but I don't think it really has that much of a real end-user benefit on the M1. Apple's CPU cores are so incredibly power efficient that it's barely noticeable, they can decode pretty much anything without the CPU breaking that much of a sweat. It'll use 1 or 2 watts to software decode 4K videos. That's unheard of on Intel, but whatever it is that Apple is doing, they're doing it decently well.
 
The new M2 iPad Pro and respective M2 products have No AV1 decode or encode support they are unarguably and irrevocably dead on arrival. Sure they are good boomer email machines. But that’s it.

I wont be buying an M2 iPad Pro if there even is one. My deal breakers are

AV1 encode and decode.
WiFi 6E
Bluetooth 5.3
Mini-LED OR QDOLED Display with 120hz VRR
12GB LPDDR5 RAM (really fast RAM same chip that’s in the Galaxy S22 Ultra)
3nm new TSMC die for the M3
So you won’t buy an M2 product because it’s not a 3nm M3… Got it, send this to Tim immediately.
 
The new M2 iPad Pro and respective M2 products have No AV1 decode or encode support they are unarguably and irrevocably dead on arrival. Sure they are good boomer email machines. But that’s it.

I wont be buying an M2 iPad Pro if there even is one. My deal breakers are

AV1 encode and decode.
WiFi 6E
Bluetooth 5.3
Mini-LED OR QDOLED Display with 120hz VRR
12GB LPDDR5 RAM (really fast RAM same chip that’s in the Galaxy S22 Ultra)
3nm new TSMC die for the M3
i wont be buying the M2 ipad pro if it doesnt have Wifi 7, 32 gb LPDDR7 of Ram, micro-Led 244hz promotion
 
What is AV1 and why is it relevant?


Basically it is a new open video compression format developed by the Alliance for Open Media whose members include the likes Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Mozilla, Google, Intel, and Microsoft. Its aim is to make video streaming more efficient without losing quality, but there are some drawbacks that the above articles explain better than what I can do.
 
er, this AV1 everyone keeps banging on about can be decoded in software too.. you really do not need hardware acceleration for it. People literally are acting as though suddenly millions of devices all of a sudden won’t be able to play videos because they won’t have hardware acceleration for AV1….
The only real place hardware acceleration may be good for AV1 is encoding.
 
The new M2 iPad Pro and respective M2 products have No AV1 decode or encode support they are unarguably and irrevocably dead on arrival. Sure they are good boomer email machines. But that’s it.

I wont be buying an M2 iPad Pro if there even is one. My deal breakers are

AV1 encode and decode.
WiFi 6E
Bluetooth 5.3
Mini-LED OR QDOLED Display with 120hz VRR
12GB LPDDR5 RAM (really fast RAM same chip that’s in the Galaxy S22 Ultra)
3nm new TSMC die for the M3
As pointed out several times, apple silicon is already quite good at decoding AV1 via software without breaking a sweat.
The new iPhone has BlueTooth 5.3, the iPad will probably have this as well.
M2 has up to 24GB of LPDDR5 RAM.
The 12.9 iPad Pro already has a 120hz Mini LED display.
 
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