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No Beatles... but Custom Ringtones?

If the ringtone rumor is true, then that pisses me right off. Why is Apple getting into the business of screwing you out of every penny. They've already managed to sell you a $600 phone with a $30/month extra bill. The technology is there to let uses use their own music as ringtones, they are just taking a page from Verizon's book and kicking their customers in the balls until they pay up. DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT, APPLE!
 
Derwood said:
I understand the process all too well (I worked as an audio engineer in various studios around the UK for nearly ten years), and what disappoints me with remixing records in 5.1 is that it is a lot, and in many case a LOT of work that, from what I have heard, rarely yields enough to make it worthwhile. For live recordings? Yes, totally understand that. Totally. For studio albums, and perhaps its a very personal thing, but that I just don't understand. Its certainly not uncommon for the artist to not even involve themselves with the 5.1 mixing and to elect to simply approve the final masters.

And why should they? We're talking about creative people who are being asked to revisit things they did 30 odd years ago. There are very few creatives I know who would relish the idea of trawling over past works. Onwards and upwards is the attitude.

Record labels will, and historically have, tried every trick in the book to get the consumer to buy, over and over again, music that you already own and remastering / 5.1 / multi-format single release / new formats / bonus-tracks / previously unreleased tracks are all devices that make this happen. I can understand why an artist wouldn't necessarily fall over themselves to be involved with a retrospective cash-cow project when they could be working on new things.

I still haven't heard a 5.1 mix of a record originally released in stereo / mono that has made me think: "Yeah, this is it. I get it." That said, I'm certainly open to suggestions. I would like to be convinced otherwise.

Love? The band or The George & Giles Martin Beatles thing? Haven't heard it I have to say. Will endeavour to check it out.

All the best,

Derwood
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The LOVE 5.1 is great, not that all of the mash-ups work. But it made me really want the later albums Rubber Soul and on in 5.1. I have the Doors 5.1 new reissues and they are AMAZING. But yes some things should remain Mono or Stereo. It should be an expansion and NOT a replacement.

And YES I agree that Super Furry Animals Rings Around the World album which was made for 5.1 is one of the most amazing albums I have ever heard in that format. You have not hearrd real 5.1 until you have listened to that album...LOUD!
 
Unspeaked said:
Octopus's Garden alone ruins Abbey Road for me...
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You shouldn't judge Beatles albums by the Ringo track. He often sang the "silly" song on an album: Act Naturally, Yellow Submarine, Octopus's Garden. You might count "With a Little Help from My Friends" among those too.
 
Doctor Q said:
You shouldn't judge Beatles albums by the Ringo track. He often sang the "silly" song on an album: Act Naturally, Yellow Submarine, Octopus's Garden. You might count "With a Little Help from My Friends" among those too.
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Yes but then he made Photograph and It don't come Easy which could arguably be two of the top ten best Solo Beat singles. I am talking great written, recorded and produced radio singles.
 
netdoc66 said:
Also, isn't it illegal for Apple to lock this phone up like this? I mean shouldn't I be able to get this thing unlocked if I want to travel overseas?
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No, it's not illegal at all (at least, in the USA). They aren't obliged to give you any helping hand in unlocking their phone.

OTOH, there appears to be a growing consensus that (for the duration of the oft-mentioned 3-year exemption) they don't have grounds for winning legal action against people who, for their own personal use, modify the phone on their own to operate on a different network.
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Personally, I too found the new iMac design the most exciting thing to come out of Apple so far this year.
 
people forget about the Beatles?
I dunno-KEXP plays them right alongside lily allen, yeah yeah yeah!, LCD Soundsystem etc.

And one VERY good reason, if you are so inclined, to buy them is that they are REMASTERED.
The previous CDs were from EQ'd tapes for 12" LPs
 
TitoC said:
Speak for yourself! If you know anything about music you wouldn't make such a stupid and blanket statement, but that's YOUR choice, not everyone in your age group. Yeah, I didn't grow up at the time of Matisse, Monet, or Mozart, yet that doesn't make me appreciate them any less. Just because YOU don't like or care for the Beatles, doesn't make ALL people of your generation think like you. People from all age groups, races and backgrounds appreciate them for their talent.

"because it reminds them of those times and brings back memories of what they used to listen to back then."

You really think that's the only reason why people like the Beatles? Really? I can like the Beatles, Rimsky-Korsakov, Mozart, White Stripes and the Velvet Underground, but not because of "memories" but because umm . . . I don't know . . how about because it's incredible music! I suggest you go to the library or a record store and just listen to music, ALL kinds of music. There's more to music than just what's out there now.

People appreciate the Beatles because they appreciate music. I know it's a hard concept, but you might be surprised that's it true.
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LOL. Comparing the Beatles to Mozart is quite a stretch! I studied and played music all through school and learned about the real greats. But let's not get carried away here: the Beatles are like the Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys of previous generations. They are pop music.

(FWIW: I believe most pop music produced by my generation is garbage)
 
The beat goes on is about Madonna. That is the name of the single that was leaked on the internet last week and she has helped before with the launch of the Motorola RKR. So I think her song will be the song use to promote all the new products and she might be part of a new commercial. I wouldnt be surprised if she end up singing in the presentation on September 5th.

In short, Madonna NOT the Beatles
 
MacbookSwitcher said:
LOL. Comparing the Beatles to Mozart is quite a stretch! I studied and played music all through school and learned about the real greats. But let's not get carried away here: the Beatles are like the Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys of previous generations. They are pop music.

(FWIW: I believe most pop music produced by my generation is garbage)
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Mozart's music, of course, was nothing more than the pop music of a generation further previous. And there was a lot of really bad music in Mozart's time, too.

Mozart in particular did not spend years laboring over his delicate creations. He churned out the hits the same way Paul and John did.
 
MacbookSwitcher said:
LOL. Comparing the Beatles to Mozart is quite a stretch! I studied and played music all through school and learned about the real greats. But let's not get carried away here: the Beatles are like the Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys of previous generations. They are pop music.
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Ha - what kind of garbage do you think Mozart would be churning out if he were alive today?

He's probably be making ringtones and the scores to Dreamworks animated films...

The Beatles were not bubblegum pop, at least not in their later years, and just as Britney Spears is far from the pinnacle of musical creativity today, some of the music being produced in the late 60s was as beautifully composed as any classical piece.
 
All of this Beattles crap probably has something to do with their settlement with Apple Corp. Wonder what the percentage points will be on Beattles transactions in the Apple Store?
 
Invitation and the Beatles

Chundles said:
No they don't. None of the covers on the invitation are from Beatles albums.
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Are they similar? Or are they not? I dunno.
 
Ringtones on the iPhone Are Doable Now via Windows

I've had custom ringtones on my iPhone since the day I bought it thanks to sending $10 to Gx5 (it's now $15) for their "iPhoneRingToneMaker" program.

It only runs under Windows, but the ringtones I sent over stayed when I synched my iPhone to my new iMac (the iPhone convinced me to switch full-time to Mac). I have not tried to use it again via Parallels, but perhaps I should to see what happens (it seems to use the iTunes plug-in to connect to the iPhone, but does not need iTunes to be open and active to work).

http://software.palminfocenter.com/product.asp?id=12970
 
Mobile17.com

It's probably been covered, but Mobile17.com lets you send ringtones to nearly any phone. I edit my songs in iTunes and then send the clip to my phone as a picture message. Why couldn't you do the same with the iPhone and not pay the .99.

The Mobile17 service is free.

Jeff
http://www.bowlofcheese.com
 
MacbookSwitcher said:
LOL. Comparing the Beatles to Mozart is quite a stretch! I studied and played music all through school and learned about the real greats. But let's not get carried away here: the Beatles are like the Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys of previous generations. They are pop music.
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Looks like you didn't study very hard. Back in Mozart's time, his stuff was pop music.

The beatles only compare with Britney in that they both have had music that was played on the radio and sold well. That's it.

While I think it's a stretch to compare music created hundreds of years apart, I'd personally put the beatles closer to Mozart than Britney. They were incredibly artistic, influential, and innovative, and even a decades later, they are widely held in incredibly high regard.
 
mozmac said:
If the ringtone rumor is true, then that pisses me right off. Why is Apple getting into the business of screwing you out of every penny. They've already managed to sell you a $600 phone with a $30/month extra bill. The technology is there to let uses use their own music as ringtones, they are just taking a page from Verizon's book and kicking their customers in the balls until they pay up. DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THAT, APPLE!
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Yeah and I spent over $200,000 on a new house plus over $400 a month in utilities, and still had to buy garage door openers, trash cans, blinds, a fridge, and a lawn mower. Get over it it's life and how things work. Just because you paid $600 for a phone doesn't mean Apple has to give you everything for free now.
 
milo said:
Looks like you didn't study very hard. Back in Mozart's time, his stuff was pop music.

The beatles only compare with Britney in that they both have had music that was played on the radio and sold well. That's it.

While I think it's a stretch to compare music created hundreds of years apart, I'd personally put the beatles closer to Mozart than Britney. They were incredibly artistic, influential, and innovative, and even a decades later, they are widely held in incredibly high regard.
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One could say that timing is everything too, but so much that is now common in record making, the Beatles' helped create. And even though they overdubbed and added effects, they did not have digital equipment to make the sound bette to do it easier. They created so much and were the first band to ever release an album without their name on the cover...Rubber Soul. Nobody else could have done that at the time. It is common now.
 
I don't really care if they add the Beatles' catalog to the iTunes Store. The entire catalogs of Stuart Sutcliffe and Pete Best in their Beatles days are what I'm really anxious for!

(I'm kidding, but as it turns out there is [playlistId=202967452&s=143441]one Pete Best album[/playlistId] actually there!)
 
izzle22 said:
Yeah and I spent over $200,000 on a new house plus over $400 a month in utilities, and still had to buy garage door openers, trash cans, blinds, a fridge, and a lawn mower. Get over it it's life and how things work. Just because you paid $600 for a phone doesn't mean Apple has to give you everything for free now.
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True True. You buy an iPod and you have to pay to fill it up!
 
MacbookSwitcher said:
LOL. Comparing the Beatles to Mozart is quite a stretch! I studied and played music all through school and learned about the real greats. But let's not get carried away here: the Beatles are like the Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys of previous generations. They are pop music.

(FWIW: I believe most pop music produced by my generation is garbage)
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God you stuffy music snobs make us all look bad. I'd compare Beatles to Mozart anyday. Mozart's music is bastardly simple... I've played it at competitions, at concerts, and I've always thought so. It's good, it's catchy, it's like the Beatles.

For that matter, I'd compare Pink Floyd to Chopin and Radiohead to Beethoven anyday. Kraftwerk = Bach. Some of the newer electronic music (not Aphex Twin or Squarepusher, but the more pop ones like Underworld and Plastikman) is superb. You're not looking hard enough at "pop" music if you can make a blanket statement like that.

EDIT: And as for studying music throughout all school -- I have too. Been playing piano since 4, been writing music, production, and DJing (as a hobby) for the past 7 years.
 
NewSc2 said:
God you stuffy music snobs make us all look bad. I'd compare Beatles to Mozart anyday. Mozart's music is bastardly simple... I've played it at competitions, at concerts, and I've always thought so. It's good, it's catchy, it's like the Beatles.

For that matter, I'd compare Pink Floyd to Chopin and Radiohead to Beethoven anyday. Kraftwerk = Bach. Some of the newer electronic music (not Aphex Twin or Squarepusher, but the more pop ones like Underworld and Plastikman) is superb. You're not looking hard enough at "pop" music if you can make a blanket statement like that.

EDIT: And as for studying music throughout all school -- I have too. Been playing piano since 4, been writing music, production, and DJing (as a hobby) for the past 7 years.
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And the Sex Pistols to Philip Glass? Yoko Ono to John Cage (especially their silent compositions)
 
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