No Blu-ray support

Discussion in 'OS X Mountain Lion (10.8)' started by gtstricky, May 2, 2013.

  1. gtstricky macrumors regular


    Apr 19, 2012
    I am sure this has been discussed but searching gave me too many hits off topic.

    Why is there still no blueray support within Mac OS? There must be a lagit tech or business reason they have not added it.
  2. r0k macrumors 68040


    Mar 3, 2008
    I think that if you plug in a blu-ray player, OSX will see it as "just another disk". I haven't tried it but I know there is software for ripping blu rays on OSX. Makemkv is one such program. I only own one bluray disk. I don't feel the need to throw 30 gigabytes of data at a 1 gigabyte problem. I buy DVDs and rip them using Handbrake. I put the originals down in the basement behind the vinyl and 78 records where they belong with all their mandatory previews and arcane menus. If the time comes I find I can only obtain bluray disks, I'll reluctantly look into getting an external bluray drive for my Mac.
  3. gtstricky thread starter macrumors regular


    Apr 19, 2012
    But if I want to watch a blueray on my mac there is no native way to do it right? Unlike a DVD that I can put in and start watching.
  4. stchman macrumors 6502a

    Jul 16, 2012
    St. Louis, MO
    Because former Apple CEO Steve Jobs called BluRay a "bag of hurt". When Jobs believed that a technology was not worthy of his products, the Apple faithful will take as gospel. Look at Flash, Apple folks shun it even though most of them don't even know why they are.

    Some at Apple believe that optical media will soon die. I guess "soon" is a relative term.

    Also another reason is that Apple would have to pay for licensing, and it may impact their iTunes sales.
  5. saturnotaku macrumors 68000

    Mar 4, 2013
    You would need two things to make that happen: 1) a Blu-ray (and that's the proper spelling of it by the way) drive and 2) software to play the discs.

    So short answer: no.
  6. madsci954 macrumors 68030

    Oct 14, 2011
    Considering that the new iMacs and rMBPs ship without optical drives, I would say Apple wants it to happen very "soon."
  7. satcomer macrumors 603


    Feb 19, 2008
    The Finger Lakes Region
    Just like Windows you have to BUY BluRay support for your Mac like Blu-Ray Player for Mac.
  8. old-wiz macrumors G3

    Mar 26, 2008
    West Suburban Boston Ma
    Blu-Ray used a really nasty encryption that required updates to the OS to work natively. IIRC they wanted some of the decode to run in ring 0, which means an error there could bring down the entire system. Plus there are regular updates to the Blu-Ray code to process newer disks. One reason the modern blu-ray players have internet connections is so they can download firmware updates to play the newest disks. This is especially true for the latest and most popular disks.
  9. ortholing macrumors newbie


    Jul 2, 2010
    Planet Terra
    Yes, I can confirm that I never had problems playing commercial (or self made) Blu-ray DVD's on my Mac with Blu-Ray Player for Mac.
    I use Blu-Ray Ripper for copying the Blu-Ray DVD videos (Transport stream) to my satellite receiver (Linux based Dreambox 8000 HD PVR) http://www.*********.com
  10. stchman macrumors 6502a

    Jul 16, 2012
    St. Louis, MO
    Just because Apple wants them to go away does not mean they will. If Apple really wanted them to go away, why do they sell external DVD burners?

    Will optical media go away, yes, eventually, but I see DVDs and Blu-Ray discs being around for at least 10 more years.
  11. tshrimp macrumors 6502


    Mar 30, 2012
    Because Apple says you don't need it, and they are always right. :)
  12. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604


    May 28, 2005
    Because it would cut into their billion dollar a year iTunes sales.
  13. Krazy Bill macrumors 68030

    Krazy Bill

    Dec 21, 2011
    Optical media is dead.. will soon die... needs to die.

    It's really that simple.
  14. Julien macrumors G4


    Jun 30, 2007
    I could live without physical BD's and move to streaming only. However up to 48mbps and lossless audio is offered on BD. No streaming service offers this quality.

    Also we are about to move to UHDTV (3840x2160) with possible 10 bit color, 4:4:4 color space and more lossless audio channels (example: Dolby Atmos/DTS MDA). This will require a LOT more data. Without near 1 gbps data speeds (we can't all move to KC) and NO data caps streaming won't be possible.
  15. Krazy Bill macrumors 68030

    Krazy Bill

    Dec 21, 2011
    Then get the right tool(s) for the job. I don't understand why you guys insist your macs be the "end-all" solution to every kind of consumption known to man. :confused:

    I for one do not want to pay extra for some beefed up Mac loaded with crap I'll never use. (Like I am now with my useless built-in optical drive).
  16. printz macrumors regular

    Dec 23, 2012
    Judging from how crappy all my desktop (and laptop) disc drives are, almost always failing and managing to lock up the entire system, I'll be glad when this technology becomes less popular.
  17. crjackson2134 macrumors 68040


    Mar 6, 2013
    Charlotte, NC
    I have no issues with my internal MCE (AKA: LG) Blu-ray drive, and I watch movies here all the time. I also rip BDs and back up to BDR or DVD depending on the movie. It works fine for me YMMV.

    BTW, there is a free Blu-ray movie player for Mac. I saw the download page a few days ago. I might search for it and post a link latter on.
  18. numbersyx macrumors 65816


    Sep 29, 2006
    Absolutely - this is the big flaw in the digital only argument. Downloading a 1080p movie from Apple is huge already and it still isn't as good as a Blu-Ray copy....
  19. Celtic Warrior macrumors regular

    Celtic Warrior

    Mar 20, 2013
    Toronto, ON
    That's right. Also iTunes still doesn't support 3D Movies unlike bluray. 1080p still cool but that would be much better with 3D support.
  20. Candlelight macrumors 6502a


    Oct 12, 2011
    New Zealand
    I would've preferred the option to play, rip and burn Blu-Ray but I have an external burner through work so it's fine.

    I removed my optical drive and put a second hard drive in; now I have 2TB of storage space for my laptop.
  21. Mr. Retrofire macrumors 603

    Mr. Retrofire

    Mar 2, 2010
    The Market != Apple


    OK, then please open your own:
    Optical media is dead.. will soon die... needs to die-forum!

    Thank you very much!


    Some high quality XXX-sites support 3D@1080p.


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