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it wont be on the app store since it messes with the iphone's os. only option is to jailbreak

What does it do to the OS? I've been hoping for a camcorder app and never understood why there aren't any on App Store, yet.
 
I don't think they will ever allow a camcorder app. Apple wants to unlock this, just as they do many other "missing" features.
 
Video Recording was never offered or listed as an option for the iPhone 2/3g
Researching the iPhone via google or any of the numerous iPhone websites before purchasing it would have shown that the iPhone may not meet your needs as a mobile device. :eek::eek::eek:

Much like the missing copy/paste, voice recording, 10gigapixel camera w/Flash and 50x digital zoom, tethering option, mms, Full M$ Office suite, et al the iPhone is NOT the answer to a lot of peoples needs as a all-n-one mobile device.
We have learned to accept its short comings and work with it. aka We enjoy the :apple:kool-aid:apple: :D
 
it wont be on the app store since it messes with the iphone's os. only option is to jailbreak
I don't think it "messes with the iphone's OS." To my knowledge, Jay (Saurik) used the official apple SDK when he created cycorder (the first time) and it met the rules apple set forth for the app store. I don't think he ever heard back? Or was denied for some other BS reason that apple is giving out to all of the truly awesome apps. Just jailbreak if you want video recording capability.
 
I don't think it "messes with the iphone's OS." To my knowledge, Jay (Saurik) used the official apple SDK when he created cycorder (the first time) and it met the rules apple set forth for the app store. I don't think he ever heard back? Or was denied for some other BS reason that apple is giving out to all of the truly awesome apps. Just jailbreak if you want video recording capability.

They could still release it as an iPhone 'App', would take a little work on their behalf but I think people would be willing to pay.
I bought podcaster and it installed via iTunes just fine. Took all of 12 hours from the time it was requested to delivery. for an Ad-hoc set up that seems fine.
 
When you use this camcorder app on Cydia - where are the videos stored? How do you use them / retrieve them? Can you play them back right on the phone?
 
From what I know, there is no API for the camera itself, all you can do is tell it to take a photo. So until Apple includes such a thing in the SDK or adds it themself, it aint happening.
 
Right. I think Apple doesn't provide any way of accessing or interfacing with lower-level hardware APIs in the "official" SDK, so the JB video-cam App uses the dev-kit reverse engineered APIs. Pity Apple is being so pissy about what kind of Apps can be on the store. Basically, nothing can upstage their built-in Apps...yet having 32 different flashlights and 14 different apps to tell you to keep drinking beer is alright.
 
When you use this camcorder app on Cydia - where are the videos stored? How do you use them / retrieve them? Can you play them back right on the phone?

Firstly, let me say that I have Cycorder on my 2G and although I don't use it probably as much as I could I think it's a fantastic app that really shows off the potential of the iPhone's tiny 2MP camera, so props to Jay for developing it.

When you record a video clip using Cycorder it is stored in the Camera Roll in just the same way as a picture taken using the Camera app is; only when you select the video thumbnail it plays the video you've recorded rather than just showing a static image.

Answer your questions?
 
Right. I think Apple doesn't provide any way of accessing or interfacing with lower-level hardware APIs in the "official" SDK, so the JB video-cam App uses the dev-kit reverse engineered APIs. Pity Apple is being so pissy about what kind of Apps can be on the store. Basically, nothing can upstage their built-in Apps...yet having 32 different flashlights and 14 different apps to tell you to keep drinking beer is alright.
As far as I can tell from what Saurik has said, he used some device drivers and the camera buffer, which is not allowed by apple, and submitted it anyway (maybe hoping they would make an exception or allow him to make an argument or whatever) and apple never acknowledged it in any way. It's definitely a shame.
 
Video Recording was never offered or listed as an option for the iPhone 2/3g
Researching the iPhone via google or any of the numerous iPhone websites before purchasing it would have shown that the iPhone may not meet your needs as a mobile device. :eek::eek::eek:

Much like the missing copy/paste, voice recording, 10gigapixel camera w/Flash and 50x digital zoom, tethering option, mms, Full M$ Office suite, et al the iPhone is NOT the answer to a lot of peoples needs as a all-n-one mobile device.
We have learned to accept its short comings and work with it. aka We enjoy the :apple:kool-aid:apple: :D


goddamn you sir..... i feel like a jerk off...... i dont want this ****ing phone anymore.... :-( not cool apple ......
 
Ya, kinda. Thanks man.

Are you able to get those videos on your PC? What's the quality like?

you can get them to your pc, but that takes setting up another process. The quality of the video is amazing. It's comparable to the quality of video taken from a digital camera. Simply put it's the best video I've seen on any mobile device. Even in low light it is clearer than the camera in the same condition. I was pleasantly suprised.
 
Cant see why everyone is so hung up on video recording on mobiles. For the most part most of the stuff on utube is shot on mobile phones and the image quality is usually awful. I got myself a canon tx1 camcorder, a tiny device with excellent quality video. Have all my important video saved on iphone in a quality I'm more than happy with. Camcorder is little bigger than a mobile
 
Cant see why everyone is so hung up on video recording on mobiles. For the most part most of the stuff on utube is shot on mobile phones and the image quality is usually awful. I got myself a canon tx1 camcorder, a tiny device with excellent quality video. Have all my important video saved on iphone in a quality I'm more than happy with. Camcorder is little bigger than a mobile

while the quality is not that great it is good for fun stuff. It's not meant to take let's say, your wedding video. Plus it's a standard feature on most mobile phones. I'm not too sure you can carry a camcorder on you at all times.
 
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but how do you install Cycorder on a 1.1.4 jailbroken original iPhone?

I can't find it in installer or in Cydia. Given that it was written by the same author as was Cydia I would have expected it to be visible by default and not need additional source(s) set up.

Or is it not available to iPhones running 1.x firmware?

Thanks ... Mike

PS I'm familiar with installing stuff via Installer, just can't seem to figure out which source I need, or how to find it in Cydia.
 
Ya, kinda. Thanks man.

Are you able to get those videos on your PC? What's the quality like?

That would be my number 1 concern. I don't think I would even want a camcorder because of the inherent limitations it would have. Not only in quality, but it would definitely lack in abilities i.e. transfer to computer, send to other smartphone/iPhones, etc...
 
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