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You do know that the glass of bear thing is NOT an App and you don't need to be jailbroken to use it. It's just a video that you sync through iTunes, press play and then pretend to tap it from the home screen. You know nothing about jailbreaking do you?

Sorry bud, I do.
I JB my iPod touch, found out that most of all of the jailbreaks are buggy and not to mention illegal.

So I decided to pay for the software update.
 
Or, if I tire of that theme I can switch to this one in less than 10 seconds:

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Could I have a link to that theme (the one on the right) please?
 
Sorry bud, I do.
I JB my iPod touch, found out that most of all of the jailbreaks are buggy and not to mention illegal.

So I decided to pay for the software update.

Jailbreaking is NOT illegal. It ONLY voids your warranty but, you won't get arrested for doing it. It voids your warranty but, you can restore to a factory state at ANY time if you ever need your iPod repaired and Apple would never know you had ever jailbroke it.
 
Jailbreaking is NOT illegal. It ONLY voids your warranty but, you won't get arrested for doing it. It voids your warranty but, you can restore to a factory state at ANY time if you ever need your iPod repaired and Apple would never know you had ever jailbroke it.

And how legal is downloading the January Software Update without paying for it? Not legal at all, in fact. That would be pirating.
 
And how legal is downloading the January Software Update without paying for it? Not legal at all, in fact. That would be pirating.

Who said that we were downloading the January update without paying for it? Jailbreaking doesn't give you the January Apps unless you decided to do that AFTER you jailbreak but, just jailbreaking isn't illegal. It's only illegal when people decide to pirate the Jan update. That's like saying buying cars is illegal because you can go over the speed limit in them.... and that's breaking the law.
 
i think some people care more about apperance. so they JB to be able to change theme every 10 seconds, so that they can look at it themselves and think it's cool (and think that other people would think the same)

some people, on the other hand, care more about productivity. they dont give a flying S about those weird themes or what others might think about their iPod Touch or iPhone.
 
i think some people care more about apperance. so they JB to be able to change theme every 10 seconds, so that they can look at it themselves and think it's cool (and think that other people would think the same)

some people, on the other hand, care more about productivity. they dont give a flying S about those weird themes or what others might think about their iPod Touch or iPhone.
I could care less what other people think of my iPod. I like it, and that's what matters.

And I fail to see how adding third-party apps gives me less productivity ... :confused: I mean, is that the whole point of this SDK? To decrease productivity??? lol
 
holy, ppl are way too sensitive when JBing is made fun of.
we all know why most ppl JB now. And that reason would be to avoid paying apples update payments. Getting the updates (apps) and not paying, making most of the reason why ppl JB, is illegal.

Take it easy ppl, I'm simply pointing out a fact that I think that JBing is useless and doesn't need to be done.

Freakin' pirates.
 
JB'ing is already pointless? Tell me, how else would I go about installing native apps at this point in time?

The iPod touch was never meant to have native apps on it. Which seems to be what everyone is missing.
 
The iPod touch was never meant to have native apps on it. Which seems to be what everyone is missing.
What do you call MobileMusicPlayer.app? MobileSafari.app? YouTube.app? Are those not native apps? I mean, SJ touts the iPhone as being the most advanced mobile platform on the market, running a mobile version of OS X - what does that imply? A modified version of a desktop OS: of course you can install native apps. I mean, that kind of goes without saying. Then the iPod Touch is released, essentially an iPhone minus the phone (and initially crippled by not including apps already developed for the iPhone, a situation Apple was quick to remedy - for a fee) ... Same deal. A modified OS X with a handful of pre-installed apps.

So, obviously the iPhone/iPod was meant to handle native apps, it comes loaded with them! Just because Apple didn't advertise it as being expandable doesn't mean it hasn't been since almost the beginning.

Some people don't need Apple's marketing team to tell us how we can and cannot use the products we purchase. Think different. :apple:
 
What do you call MobileMusicPlayer.app? MobileSafari.app? YouTube.app? Are those not native apps? I mean, SJ touts the iPhone as being the most advanced mobile platform on the market, running a mobile version of OS X - what does that imply? A modified version of a desktop OS: of course you can install native apps. I mean, that kind of goes without saying. Then the iPod Touch is released, essentially an iPhone minus the phone (and initially crippled by not including apps already developed for the iPhone, a situation Apple was quick to remedy - for a fee) ... Same deal. A modified OS X with a handful of pre-installed apps.

So, obviously the iPhone/iPod was meant to handle native apps, it comes loaded with them! Just because Apple didn't advertise it as being expandable doesn't mean it hasn't been since almost the beginning.

Some people don't need Apple's marketing team to tell us how we can and cannot use the products we purchase. Think different. :apple:

Just like you said, the remedy of being able to install native apps on the iPod touch comes at a fee. If you jailbreak that, to avoid the fee, that makes it illegal.

That's all I am saying.
 
Just like you said, the remedy of being able to install native apps on the iPod touch comes at a fee. If you jailbreak that, to avoid the fee, that makes it illegal.

That's all I am saying.

Whoa - And your logic for this is? Lets see. I bought a Touch, I want to use it for other things, I have to pay to do that. I don't think so. Jailbreaking is not illegal. I bought the apps from Apple, although I gritted my teeth as I did.

I have many other apps that I use. They were free. How is that illegal.

PLEASE, I really want your take on this.
 
I did the jb thing and wow. The fact that I can now download youtube videos and podcasts wirelessly is worth it on its own. And chess, pool, tetris games, wow. I only download apps that have been out for a while with no reported issues. Oh and the piano player wow.
 
I used be jailbroken. I went legit with 1.1.4 and haven't gone back. I do miss the ability to customize my wallpaper and icons, but other than that, I kinda felt like the bulk of Apps were crap. I think once the App pack is out, Installer is going to become the testing zone for Apps on their way up. Kind of like the minor leagues. If there was a simple way to get an actual jailbreak for 1.1.4, I'd do it. Maybe once pwnage or however you spell it is out I will probably go that route until the App Store is launched. But I don't want the soft upgrade and I have a mac, so Ziphone is out for me.
 
I have floated around the forums and I have seen you say this and frankly that is the COOLEST ****ing thing I have heard, and I totally agree the offline availability would be amazingly beneficial.

If I might ask, how much memory is that taking up on your iPod? Less that 1 GB?

Unfortunately, that is the down side. The application itself and supporting files are inconsequential in size. It's the articles.bin data file that holds all of the articles. The English version weighs in at something like 3.2GB. And that's without any images--text only. If you want to add images it can easily add well over 3-5GB more.

Many will scoff at the size, but to me, a 3GB memory hit is completely worth having he content always available.
 
holy, ppl are way too sensitive when JBing is made fun of.
we all know why most ppl JB now. And that reason would be to avoid paying apples update payments.

.....

Freakin' pirates.

No, people are way too sensitive when you call them "Freakin' pirates". Which is, of course, libel. Why don't you post your address, we can send some documents straight away.

Most people don't seem to JB to avoid paying $20 from what I've seen on the web, they do it to get what they want on their own iPod. That they PAID for. Or are you accusing us of stealing the hardware, too? As in this thread, many, many people have both paid $20 and JBed their iPod.

I am JBed and I have none of the $20 apps. You know what this makes me? Happy with my iPod.
 
Just like you said, the remedy of being able to install native apps on the iPod touch comes at a fee. If you jailbreak that, to avoid the fee, that makes it illegal.

That's all I am saying.

thats like saying you have to play baseball through a league which you pay to join as opposed to getting friends together and just having fun...

the latter avoids the fee of the league and is more fun! just like jb'ing

same with working on your car, you could take it to a mechanic and have them do it or you do the work yourself
 
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