There are already third-party remote control headphones (with mics) that work with the iPhone and new iPods. Do these already have this chip too? I think they will.
Despite using a lot of bold and underlining, you are wrong.
I am a little late on this one but what dose this chip do.
Its good to talk dam shame wont see the iPhone for a while oh well
. Apple gets thrown so much mud from everewhere, even at our phorums,whilst using that prementioned vista sonny lappie, I came to anohter coclusion, roll drums, we here some with being noteful others with their winhing. But it's what makes apple great: SCRUTINY on already great products. While poor vista Sony that none cares enough to ha a real community around they laptops ugly, with tackpads as large as the 1/10 of than on apple, awfull display that none notice......and let me remind allo....****** Vista too... First time I opened up this lappie and I got 10 warning messages from ogiginal vista.....I'm glad I wasn't the only one. To put DRM on an ANALOG OUTPUT of a device doesn't make sense in the least. The analog output will not allow for "perfect" copies of the original as it has to travel through the iPod's D-to-A converter.
This is a complete non-story. My Creative MP3 player from 2000 had a similar connector (3/8" four conductor) with inline controls. It also has a chip inside the controller.
The FUD surrounding Apple products continues to astound me.
The current third-party headphones with remote controls do not work with the new shuffle. Apple's recent in-ear headphones may work with the new shuffle, not sure.
Wrong about what? I noticed you didn't quote any text that I was wrong about. All the information I posted was directly from the Macworld article.
I suppose you're taking issue with the "which may subject them to legal action" line. The DMCA is not the only legal concern here. Apple may well have patents for the new chip. I wouldn't put it past them to go after third-parties that reverse engineer the new headphone chip, they've did it for the dock connector (which ironically is part of the same "Made for iPod" program that the new headphone chip is a part of).
http://www.appletell.com/apple/comment/apple-defends-its-made-for-ipod-trademark-against-atico/
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...it_in_defense_of_made_for_ipod_licensing.html
Honestly, this is Apple's business anyways. Why shouldn't they have the right to decide who gets to sell parts that work with Apple devices.
It seems that many folks here do not think this is a big deal - or that this is a non-story. And all of those people are either not smart at all, or they do not really understand what this article is saying. If you think this is a non-issue, you really need to go back, and read the article again, and then maybe again if you're really not smart. This chip is not nothing. It doesn't just sit in the earbuds and take up space. It is not necessary for the earbuds to work - so ask yourself why it's there. Will that chip's existence make your life better?
If you think Apple is acting like good guys here, your zealotry is far, far larger than your intellect could ever hope to be. That type of zealotry is why most people make fun of Apple fans.
It seems that many folks here do not think this is a big deal - or that this is a non-story. And all of those people are either not smart at all, or they do not really understand what this article is saying. If you think this is a non-issue, you really need to go back, and read the article again, and then maybe again if you're really not smart. This chip is not nothing. It doesn't just sit in the earbuds and take up space. It is not necessary for the earbuds to work - so ask yourself why it's there. Will that chip's existence make your life better?
If you think Apple is acting like good guys here, your zealotry is far, far larger than your intellect could ever hope to be. That type of zealotry is why most people make fun of Apple fans.
omg what bull****
It doesn't matter if it's true or not: The story can't be undone. All the haters will continue to say that "Apple has DRM in their headphones!", even though it's been disproven.
Not until December 21, 2012!
Whatever you do, DON'T HOLD OFF ON BUYING THE NEW iPOD SHUFFLE FOR 3+ YEARS... At $79, live a little.
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Well that's great to hear... The less DRM the better.
I am interpreting this a bit differently than you are. I think this chip is required to encode the different controls. The new iPod Shuffle has volume up/down controls as well as other new controls that the old ipod headphones don't have. It is just like adding a microphone to the iPhone earbuds. Old earbuds would not work because they didn't have a microphone. Old earbuds won't work with the iPod shuffle because they don't have these new controls. Apple added this chip so that they could upgrade the shuffle and offer control from the earbud cord. They didn't add this chip to control the aftermarket earbud manufactuers.
Good, Im glad to hear that other headphones might work in the future.
DRM? iPod Shuffle? So let me get this straight... people are worried that Apple is implementing DRM on the output of the iPod Shuffle, mere months after announcing that all iTunes music will be offered without DRM?
What exactly would preventing copying through the headphone output of the iPod accomplish? You can simply, y'know, copy the song from your hard drive. One could easily open iTunes Plus music in any audio editor/converter and change the format, so why the hell would one go through all the trouble to connect the iPod to the Line In and record their music, instead of simply copying/converting the file?
Maybe people shouldn't be so damn quick to accuse without having a clear understanding of what they are accusing Apple of doing in the first place.
Way to go Arn and crew. Waiting reflected accurate reporting here.
It seems that many folks here do not think this is a big deal - or that this is a non-story. And all of those people are either not smart at all, or they do not really understand what this article is saying. If you think this is a non-issue, you really need to go back, and read the article again, and then maybe again if you're really not smart. This chip is not nothing. It doesn't just sit in the earbuds and take up space. It is not necessary for the earbuds to work - so ask yourself why it's there. Will that chip's existence make your life better?
If you think Apple is acting like good guys here, your zealotry is far, far larger than your intellect could ever hope to be. That type of zealotry is why most people make fun of Apple fans.
It seems that many folks here do not think this is a big deal - or that this is a non-story. And all of those people are either not smart at all, or they do not really understand what this article is saying. If you think this is a non-issue, you really need to go back, and read the article again, and then maybe again if you're really not smart. This chip is not nothing. It doesn't just sit in the earbuds and take up space. It is not necessary for the earbuds to work - so ask yourself why it's there. Will that chip's existence make your life better?
If you think Apple is acting like good guys here, your zealotry is far, far larger than your intellect could ever hope to be. That type of zealotry is why most people make fun of Apple fans.