No EDU discount on new iPods?

[lcseds]

Hmmmmm, looks like $79 through edu or the regualr site. Do you have a link to the discounted shuffle?

It's likely the education discount is gone for iPod products. It is likely to continue for computers, software and some peripherals. But the edu discount is going through some changes, mostly elimination of many items from the discount list.

 

[arcsbite]

Not true...it's $79 for everyone. As I pointed out earlier in the thread, iPods are no longer mentioned in Apple's EDU store terms under purchase limits.

odd...

That would be a shuffle...with an Edu discount.

 

[briantology]

Apple is not a charity, so I seriously doubt they just went off their rockers and decided to give everyone a better than EDU discount all of a sudden.

I didn't say Apple was a charity. What I was trying to imply is that a typical consumer can buy a new iPod for $249 which is in turn better than the old iPod for $269 w/ edu. discount. But it's all good...

 

[lcseds]

Ahhhh, I thought maybe that was a US price you had seen. Makes sense as Apple is still working on improving international sales. Those outside the US can still get the iPod rebate with the new iMac also, something US residents can no longer do. Good news for you!

 

[mrgreen4242]

odd...

That would be a shuffle...with an Edu discount.

I think we are talking US Store. I know that this site has lots and lots of non-US members and I think that's one of the sites biggest strengths (I love conversing with non-US people and getting a really global perspective on things), but it's a US based site (I THINK) and Apple is a US company. I think that people should just assume that people are talking about the US Apple services unless otherwise mentioned.

It was mentioned in another thread that the Apple Canada store has EDU discounts, but the US store doesn't, which again is what is being discussed here. Rather than be smarmy, maybe you should be happy that the UK is getting a break for a change.

 

[arcsbite]

I think we are talking US Store. I know that this site has lots and lots of non-US members and I think that's one of the sites biggest
strengths (I love conversing with non-US people and getting a really global perspective on things), but it's a US based site (I THINK) and Apple is a US company. I think that people should just assume that people are talking about the US Apple services unless otherwise mentioned.

It was mentioned in another thread that the Apple Canada store has EDU discounts, but the US store doesn't, which again is what is being discussed here. Rather than be smarmy, maybe you should be happy that the UK is getting a break for a change.

Where am I being smarmy?
I was told that there were no iPod Edu deals, when I mentioned I'd seen them on the new shuffle I was outrightly told I was wrong.
I was not wrong
isn't it a little conceited to assume that every post is US based unless otherwise noted?
plus, not really a break when you work out that even with the edu discount the shuffle is $94.66 lol

 

[OziMac]

Don't get too far ahead of yourself there - in Australia there are also no EDU prices yet.

And we did get an EDU price on the BT Mighty Mouse, though we never got the rebate offer that the rest of the world seems to have gotten...

I think that people should just assume that people are talking about the US Apple services unless otherwise mentioned.

With all due respect, this reeks smarm (as does my calling you out on it). We're all at fault, so let's just content ourselves that we're all smarmy and that we're not all assuming US store and services here all the time.

 

[dondark]

Does the refurnished iMac qualify for the free nano?

 

[WildCowboy]

Where am I being smarmy?
I was told that there were no iPod Edu deals, when I mentioned I'd seen them on the new shuffle I was outrightly told I was wrong.
I was not wrong
isn't it a little conceited to assume that every post is US based unless otherwise noted?

Ah yes...sorry for the confusion. It just goes to show that I spend too much time on this site. I assumed we were all talking about the US...not because of any US-centric bias, but because I'd already seen and participated in so many threads that talked about the UK/US EDU pricing situation that I assumed everyone was aware of it. My bad.

EDU pricing on iPods in US: Yes.
EDU pricing on iPods in UK: No.
EDU pricing on iPods anywhere else in the world: I don't know.

Does the refurnished iMac qualify for the free nano?

No...the offer is good only on new products.

 

[generik]

Does the refurnished iMac qualify for the free nano?

Nope.

 

[elbirth]

Even though the price is much lower than I imagined, I think a lot of people are going to be upset at the lack of EDU discount. (in US....) I was ready to buy an 80GB iPod right when the store came back up, but the lack of discount turned me off. I may still get one in the near future regardless, but I was looking forward to saving yet that much more money.

 

[feelthefire]

Well, that's a bummer. i was all ready to buy today, but I don't want to do it without an education discount. I don't know what's changed between yesterday and today, but suddenly students are no longer worthy of a discount?

I was all set to get an 8gb except I was a little turned off that the colors aren't available in the 8gb and there was no discount. The whole reason I buy from apple is for the edu discount, otherwise, the instant gratification side wins out and I just go get it locally.

 

[lcseds]

Well, the very idea of giving students a break on price, while noble, was abused anyway. Everybody and their brother used an educational portal to buy with the discount. So, it ended up not meaning much. With the new releases, they just trimmed $50 off the 30G iPod. It's $20 less than the old unit with the educational discount, yet boasts better battery life, brightness, etc.
What's to complain about?

 

[feelthefire]

Well, the very idea of giving students a break on price, while noble, was abused anyway. Everybody and their brother used an educational portal to buy with the discount. So, it ended up not meaning much. With the new releases, they just trimmed $50 off the 30G iPod. It's $20 less than the old unit with the educational discount, yet boasts better battery life, brightness, etc.
What's to complain about?

Because I want a nano, not a 30gb? It's not really a break on price considering that model is pretty much a year old and the improvements they made still don't justify the difference in component costs over a year in the electronics industry.

Considering paying $40,000 a year for my education makes things pretty tight, having the discount made little luxuries a little more feasible on a student budget, and I personally am bummed they took it away for the iPod, which is one of the most commonly purchased items by students.

That said, I guess it's the 4gb nano for me, edu discount or no, since the 5.5g is pretty unexciting overall.

 

[YoNeX]

Typing this on my new Black MacBook and yes I did pick up the iPod Nano. But whats strange is that I was charged 199 for the 4GB Nano, instead of the regular 250 (or 230 for EDU). So maybe a lag or bug in their system, but as long as I get my 179 rebate for the Nano I'll be happy. Yes, the store employees strongly emphasize that new iPods will not work with the Free iPod deal.

 

[generik]

Because I want a nano, not a 30gb? It's not really a break on price considering that model is pretty much a year old and the improvements they made still don't justify the difference in component costs over a year in the electronics industry.

Considering paying $40,000 a year for my education makes things pretty tight, having the discount made little luxuries a little more feasible on a student budget, and I personally am bummed they took it away for the iPod, which is one of the most commonly purchased items by students.

That said, I guess it's the 4gb nano for me, edu discount or no, since the 5.5g is pretty unexciting overall.

Wow.. uni fees in the US sure are expensive.. I only pay like.. A$8000 a year for my fees, that is like.... 1/8 of what it costs in the US!

 

[WildCowboy]

Wow.. uni fees in the US sure are expensive.. I only pay like.. A$8000 a year for my fees, that is like.... 1/8 of what it costs in the US!

It varies a lot here, but elite private schools are often $40,000 or even a bit more per year...that includes tuition, room and board. Public schools are usually considerably less...~$15,000 is a somewhat typical number. Cut that in half if you live at home for free and let your parents supply the grub.

Community colleges are less, but for a four-year university, it's a really good chunk of change however you do it. (And that's not to say that community colleges are cheap.)

 

[Roba]

Apple may have lowered the cost of these iPods overall and passed that onto everybody. These new iPods are even cheaper than what they used to cost with a student discount previously so people really shouldn't complain. I bought a iPod Nano 4GB from the Apple store under student discount in May of this year for a gift and i believe that i paid £169 and the normal retail value of this Nano was £179 so you can see i hardly got any money of. Now these Nanos are £129 and much more affordable for me.
I am sure that there are many members of society who would benefit from lower Apple prices overall who are not students.
Maybe they will be soon doing this with their computers in the future as well.

 

[generik]

Maybe the reason they can do this now is because they sell in large volumes.. hence they can get good pricing for their stuff?

I am no economist, so this is just an idea that I throw out

 

[feelthefire]

It varies a lot here, but elite private schools are often $40,000 or even a bit more per year...that includes tuition, room and board. Public schools are usually considerably less...~$15,000 is a somewhat typical number. Cut that in half if you live at home for free and let your parents supply the grub.

Community colleges are less, but for a four-year university, it's a really good chunk of change however you do it. (And that's not to say that community colleges are cheap.)

I am paying this for out of state at a public state university, but all the same. Even $30 off an iPod means I can go out to dinner or a movie for that $30 that I had set aside, so I'm bummed. I still don't really think the logic that "well it's still cheaper than the old ones" works out, since it's a new device and can't REALLY be compared to anything else. They cost what they cost, and I'm bummed they took away my discount.

 

[eenu]

Apple may have lowered the cost of these iPods overall and passed that onto everybody. These new iPods are even cheaper than what they used to cost with a student discount previously so people really shouldn't complain. I bought a iPod Nano 4GB from the Apple store under student discount in May of this year for a gift and i believe that i paid £169 and the normal retail value of this Nano was £179 so you can see i hardly got any money of. Now these Nanos are £129 and much more affordable for me.
I am sure that there are many members of society who would benefit from lower Apple prices overall who are not students.
Maybe they will be soon doing this with their computers in the future as well.

From what i have heard educational prices are going completely (on all apple products) this month.

I was told that by an apple employee....how true it is i don't know

 

[QCassidy352]

I still don't really think the logic that "well it's still cheaper than the old ones" works out, since it's a new device and can't REALLY be compared to anything else. They cost what they cost, and I'm bummed they took away my discount.

That doesn't really make any sense. If I read you right, it's not so much that you think $250 is too expensive, it's just that you liked getting something off the regular price. If the regular price were $280 and there was an edu price of $250, would you be happy then? The bottom line is, "are you satisfied with what you're getting for the price they're charging?"

 

[feelthefire]

If the regular price were $280 and there was an edu price of $250, would you be happy then? The bottom line is, "are you satisfied with what you're getting for the price they're charging?"

Yes, because I would be paying less than joe from across the street for the same product. The point is that the discount was specific to college students, and it wasn't a discount that "everyone" got, which is what everyone's saying. Saying "Well, they knocked $50 off the cost of the 30gb" for everyone isn't a discount, it's just a price cut as apple acknowledges they're still trying to sell a product that's a year old. A discount would be knocking $50 off the old price for the new device, then knocking another $20 for people who meet the requirements (i.e. being a student). Student discounts are one of the standard perks of being in higher education and I'm still going to be bummed that apple is shorting the students, who are a huge market segment for this device.

I can say that if apple abolishes all education discounts, they've lost my business permanently, as the educational discount is the only thing that made apple truly competitive with other manufacturers. If dell will dock me $600 off a laptop for being a student, and apple thinks my business isn't worth it, then I guess even though I hate dell my budget is going to win out and I won't be buying a mac.

I'm buying a nano anyway, but that doesn't change the fact that I think apple is shafting the students on this one, simply because the product is popular.

And someone mentioned that they weren't educational- in fact, my university uses them left and right in classes. My spanish class right now requires a 4g or newer iPod.

 

[JMies419]

Has anyone called Apple and asked about this?

 

[orangezorki]

Has anyone called Apple and asked about this?

For those of you in the UK, I did call this afternoon. They said that the new iPods most definitely DO NOT qualify for the deal. They have lowered the prices on the old ones (to that of the new ones of the same capacity - how very generous!). They have stock of the old ones, which you need to find either on the HE store through your institution's network, or call up the Apple store.

The guy did say that the level of rebate has been lowered, so that you still have to pay about 19 pounds net for a 2Gb nano after rebate, but the form hasn't changed, which would lead me to hope that the actual cost would be -1 pounds.

Hope this helps,

David