NO, i dont want to update apple, take a hint..

comda

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Greetings,

I am the happy owner of an Iphone 5, 64Gb in grey. Its been a great phone but since IOS 6, its SLOOOOOOWED down and Apples FALSE claims that IOS 9 increases speed with older devices is completely false. Im currently running IOS 9.3 because the update kept appearing each time i plugged the device in and once i accidentally clicked update instead of remind me later. I DONT want to update to 9.3.1 and yet it keeps bothering me. Ive deleted the update in Settings>General>Storage and iCloud Usage>Manage Storage and deleted the update. Yet each night, it offers the update and when i say no, it offers to do it while i sleep.

HOW can i get this to STOP!? Apple, i dont want to update and i dont want to allow you to force them on me when all youre going to do is going to slowly make my phone obsolete by slowing it down.

I want to eventually JB it and downgrade if i can back to ios 8?
 
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C DM

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You are certain you've deleted it and it's not showing up in storage at the moment? Have you restarted for a good measure?
 
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RobCoenen

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When is the last time you gave your phone a full reset (DFU or restore through iTunes and then setup the iPhone as new instead of loading a back-up)? Each major version (iOS 7 > 8 // 8 > 9 etc.) I recommend to give your phone a fresh restore. Could be the placebo effect though.

iOS 9.3.1 runs very fast on both the iPhone 5S / 6 and 6 Plus here, as well on the Air 1 and Air 2. iPad 2 though isn't funny anymore.
 

iOSUser7

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Make sure you have indeed deleted the update file in the storage menu. Also, don't forget that it re-download and re-ask you every time a new update is released so you have to delete the update file every time a new one is downloaded.

If it's still ask you, make sure to reboot your device, I heard that it can stop asking to update and even remove the badge from the Settings app icon.
 

stevemiller

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This behaviour troubles me.

I didn't notice it until recently because my devices are current enough to handle updates without substantial slowdown. I'm not thrilled by the prospect that I won't be able to say "no" permanently to a future update that might otherwise considerably slow my device. I was looking on various forums and indeed there is no way to stop the redownloading of iOS updates short of never being plugged in and on wifi simultaneously, or putting a router level block on apples update servers.

And no this isn't an invitation to debate the trade offs in performance vs new features and patches. Users should have the option to say no.
 

C DM

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This behaviour troubles me.

I didn't notice it until recently because my devices are current enough to handle updates without substantial slowdown. I'm not thrilled by the prospect that I won't be able to say "no" permanently to a future update that might otherwise considerably slow my device. I was looking on various forums and indeed there is no way to stop the redownloading of iOS updates short of never being plugged in and on wifi simultaneously, or putting a router level block on apples update servers.

And no this isn't an invitation to debate the trade offs in performance vs new features and patches. Users should have the option to say no.
Deleting a downloaded update should prevent it from automatically downloading again.
 

stevemiller

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Deleting a downloaded update should prevent it from automatically downloading again.
All threads I've found on this issue, including the op, have suggested that it does indeed re-download the next time you are plugged in and connected to wifi. I will verify when I am back to my own place tomorrow as I do not wish to risk using any more data while staying with family.

Is there any official documentation stating that deleted updates shouldn't re-download? As I said, I've only managed to find suggestions that it is a recurring behaviour.
 

C DM

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All threads I've found on this issue, including the op, have suggested that it does indeed re-download the next time you are plugged in and connected to wifi. I will verify when I am back to my own place tomorrow as I do not wish to risk using any more data while staying with family.

Is there any official documentation stating that deleted updates shouldn't re-download? As I said, I've only managed to find suggestions that it is a recurring behaviour.
Haven't really looked around for more official information, but based on various discussions about it all since iOS 7.1 days when the ability to delete was introduced, as I recall, most mentions of it referenced that the automatic download of the same version wouldn't happen again, at least not until a newer update is out.
 
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chrismail627

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What a world we live in where Android users want updates and iOS users don't.
Exactly! Android users are constantly begging for software updates, and updates are rarely pushed to the phones. iOS users are constantly complaining about the updates they're receiving...at least they get updates.
[doublepost=1460503153][/doublepost]I will say though that Android updates are way more stable than iOS updates. Unfortunately, I'm lucky if I get an update every 3-4 months on my S6 Edge. I think that iOS is definitely the best with updates, even with the occasional bugs.
 

electronicsguy

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Greetings,

I am the happy owner of an Iphone 5, 64Gb in grey. Its been a great phone but since IOS 6, its SLOOOOOOWED down and Apples FALSE claims that IOS 9 increases speed with older devices is completely false. Im currently running IOS 9.3 because the update kept appearing each time i plugged the device in and once i accidentally clicked update instead of remind me later. I DONT want to update to 9.3.1 and yet it keeps bothering me. Ive deleted the update in Settings>General>Storage and iCloud Usage>Manage Storage and deleted the update. Yet each night, it offers the update and when i say no, it offers to do it while i sleep.

HOW can i get this to STOP!? Apple, i dont want to update and i dont want to allow you to force them on me when all youre going to do is going to slowly make my phone obsolete by slowing it down.

I want to eventually JB it and downgrade if i can back to ios 8?
short and long answer: you cannot
 

pacorob

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short and long answer: you cannot
I agree but it remains unfortunately that it's not an option to turn off updating with a switch and therefore you also won't get a downloaded file for the update. My old iPhone 4s ran fine on iOS7.1.2 and I gave it to my mom. But now my mom has it running iOS9 (she didn't knew she did) and it's indeed slooow. This also a bit the case with e.g. the iPhone 5.

From iPhone 5s and up and iPad mini2 and up I think iOS9.3.1 runs pretty smooth (I own an iPhone 5s and iPad mini2).
 

abrahamw88

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Greetings,

I am the happy owner of an Iphone 5, 64Gb in grey. Its been a great phone but since IOS 6, its SLOOOOOOWED down and Apples FALSE claims that IOS 9 increases speed with older devices is completely false. Im currently running IOS 9.3 because the update kept appearing each time i plugged the device in and once i accidentally clicked update instead of remind me later. I DONT want to update to 9.3.1 and yet it keeps bothering me. Ive deleted the update in Settings>General>Storage and iCloud Usage>Manage Storage and deleted the update. Yet each night, it offers the update and when i say no, it offers to do it while i sleep.

HOW can i get this to STOP!? Apple, i dont want to update and i dont want to allow you to force them on me when all youre going to do is going to slowly make my phone obsolete by slowing it down.

I want to eventually JB it and downgrade if i can back to ios 8?

iOS 9.3.1 has actually increased speed for most people and fixed many of the major slowdowns present since iOS 9 was introduced.
 
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Black Magic

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Greetings,

I am the happy owner of an Iphone 5, 64Gb in grey. Its been a great phone but since IOS 6, its SLOOOOOOWED down and Apples FALSE claims that IOS 9 increases speed with older devices is completely false. Im currently running IOS 9.3 because the update kept appearing each time i plugged the device in and once i accidentally clicked update instead of remind me later. I DONT want to update to 9.3.1 and yet it keeps bothering me. Ive deleted the update in Settings>General>Storage and iCloud Usage>Manage Storage and deleted the update. Yet each night, it offers the update and when i say no, it offers to do it while i sleep.

HOW can i get this to STOP!? Apple, i dont want to update and i dont want to allow you to force them on me when all youre going to do is going to slowly make my phone obsolete by slowing it down.

I want to eventually JB it and downgrade if i can back to ios 8?

By not updating you are putting yourself at risk. Seriously, update the device as your backward thinking is more harmful than helpful.
 

comda

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By not updating you are putting yourself at risk. Seriously, update the device as your backward thinking is more harmful than helpful.
Well perhaps if apple did not purposely brick these phones i would update. But it seems the more you upgrade an iphone the slower and more unusable it gets. Just ask Apple with the iphone 4S court case.
Its all business, scaring me to update then bricking my device so they can say mines slow and offer me a new one when in about a year or two it will too be slow.
 

Black Magic

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Well perhaps if apple did not purposely brick these phones i would update. But it seems the more you upgrade an iphone the slower and more unusable it gets. Just ask Apple with the iphone 4S court case.
Its all business, scaring me to update then bricking my device so they can say mines slow and offer me a new one when in about a year or two it will too be slow.

They fixed the bricking issue with 9.3.1 so you should be good to go. The speed will be the same as it was with 9.3 so you shouldn't worry. There were some vulnerabilities fixed like the 1970 Date Bug hack via WIFI, so you really should apply the update. In about 2 weeks 9.3.2 will be dropping so you will be even further behind.
 
To add some clarification to this, speed improvements are typically only valid if you are coming directly from the release prior to the new one. (e.g. 9.3 to 9.3.1) If you are coming from an older iOS say 8.0 and trying to go to 9.3.1 you will notice performance hits due to the requirements of the base iOS version.

iOS is pretty much laid out like this
9.3.1
means
Main release . Service Pack . bug/security fixes
 

Yun0

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more "apple false promises" craP? if u think apple's updates are "aggressive" (im yet to get any update notification automatically, let alone download), try windows 10..thought so.
 
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more "apple false promises" craP? if u think apple's updates are "aggressive" (im yet to get any update notification automatically, let alone download), try windows 10..thought so.
Windows 10 automatically checks for and downloads updates in the background without even asking you, you can't stop them they just force them on you even if you don't want it, Apple at least gives you an option to automatically update when you first get your phone.

You didn't notice the cumulative update, flash player update, and the windows defender update that was pushed out this past Tuesday (Patch Tuesday) April 12th. Windows Defender is also updated once about every 8 hours.
 
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Yun0

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Windows 10 automatically checks for and downloads updates in the background without even asking you, you can't stop them they just force them on you even if you don't want it, Apple at least gives you an option to automatically update when you first get your phone.

You didn't notice the cumulative update, flash player update, and the windows defender update that was pushed out this past Tuesday (Patch Tuesday) April 12th. Windows Defender is also updated once about every 8 hours.
i think u got confused, my parenthesis statement was for ios, im yet to get any update notification automatically, let alone download, on ios, not windows 10.
 

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Well perhaps if apple did not purposely brick these phones i would update. But it seems the more you upgrade an iphone the slower and more unusable it gets. Just ask Apple with the iphone 4S court case.
Its all business, scaring me to update then bricking my device so they can say mines slow and offer me a new one when in about a year or two it will too be slow.
Hmm... that's interesting. I didn't know that updating older iOS devices bricks them. Any links to show that significant number of iOS devices have been bricked through updates? I'm pretty sure that Apple wouldn't have a good reputation if their devices completely failed to function after updates- which of course, is what "bricking" is.

Also, newer iPhones have considerably faster CPUs and GPUs than older ones. Newer software will never run as well on two year old devices as the software that originally came with those devices. You don't see this problem in the PC market because consumer hardware hasn't improved all that much in the past few years, and desktop operating systems really haven't increased in complexity that much over that time frame. The functionality and complexity of iOS has increased alongside the computing power and RAM of iOS devices, which makes it harder for older devices to keep up. One day, the trend will level out and this won't be as big of an issue.

Until then, either buy a new device or live with Apple offering updates that you don't want. Or, go Android- this is an option that many unhappy MacRumors users should consider.
 
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