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No iMac in 2012, what would that mean for Apple?
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Are you sure about that? I can understand that it is normal, but there are different hens in the hen house now. Perhaps they're not going to give some announcement to devs prior to announcing it to the public. Not to say that devs won't get their hands on it first, but still.
no, only after intel architecture was introduced. But I think it´s no point compare anything before that..it was the old days and apple didn´t do as well back then as now, and the phase of hardware update has changed since then.
As people states, apple never said imacs will come this year. They never do that, they said it on mac pros because of the shameless release and all the heat that stirred up. But since they made a point to say that the iMac was not part of that statement, it´s pretty obvious that they will release it this year. Unless they went to media to make this point simply to be ******s...which seems rather unlikely
Are you talking of Arm switch?Not so happy about that,
but even Windows8 can run on Arm..so maybe next BootCamp will,
but what about performances between Haswell and Arm "2013"
not to mention the Gpu ones.
What i really fear is to see Ios everywhere but with Arm's step
will be more than a possibility,for the moment i still want
a "simple" 2012 Imac,if Apple wants still,
cause i need to work not to (with Ios in my pocket) walk.
but even Windows8 can run on Arm..so maybe next BootCamp will,
but what about performances between Haswell and Arm "2013"
not to mention the Gpu ones.
What i really fear is to see Ios everywhere but with Arm's step
will be more than a possibility,for the moment i still want
a "simple" 2012 Imac,if Apple wants still,
cause i need to work not to (with Ios in my pocket) walk.
Well our only point of reference is the Intel changeover, which was announced 8 months before the first product was released, along with emulation software. They would have to do something similar for ARM (which doesn't currently have anything near the equivalent horsepower anyway). AMD would have slightly less impact, but really would still require lots of recompiling for optimization and couldn't be sprung on developers by surprise. And if a dev got a copy of OS X that included AMD CPU references, it'd be on the front page of MR within hours..
When Apple moved from PPC to x86, a lot of people on an Italian newsgroup I followed at the time (it.comp.macintosh) feared that Macs would start being refreshed every 3 months or so, due to the greater availability of new and more powerful off-the-shelf parts.
A few years later, here we are checking MacRumors every day for a sign of a new iMac
*sigh*
A few years later, here we are checking MacRumors every day for a sign of a new iMac
*sigh*
You're responding to a known troll. Puevlo always starts troll threads on topics like this.
You should really just stop thinking like that, as they are too far apart in computational power to bridge the gap at this point While it may not remain that way indefinitely, there isn't anything to really push such a transition, as you would lose the ability to run many modern applications. To really see such a thing become feasible, ARM designs would have to significantly outpace intel's current growth going forward for potentially many years.
If anything their strengths were in bundled cpu and igp packages where intel was weak. They still aren't that great, but Apple is likely waiting it out. Haswell and beyond should do more to even out those issues.
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Apple will most certainly release an updated iMac sometime this fall.
I have ZERO doubts about that - mostly due to my personal interpretation of Tim Cooks rather obvious email to that consumer.
And if it's a redesigned iMac... it's a wrap. Consumers would go crazy for it and it could be just what Apple needs to get back into the "desktop computer" business. They have acquired quite the fan base with their products and, imo, it's a no brainer to... 1. Get it out before the holidays and 2. Attempt to reestablish itself as a computer company as well as a smartphone/tablet company.
We'll see though. I'm not worried at all actually. If November rolls around and it doesn't drop... I'm more than willing to eat crow and will absolutely admit that, no, I do not in fact know what the *&#@ Apple is up to. lol
I have ZERO doubts about that - mostly due to my personal interpretation of Tim Cooks rather obvious email to that consumer.
And if it's a redesigned iMac... it's a wrap. Consumers would go crazy for it and it could be just what Apple needs to get back into the "desktop computer" business. They have acquired quite the fan base with their products and, imo, it's a no brainer to... 1. Get it out before the holidays and 2. Attempt to reestablish itself as a computer company as well as a smartphone/tablet company.
We'll see though. I'm not worried at all actually. If November rolls around and it doesn't drop... I'm more than willing to eat crow and will absolutely admit that, no, I do not in fact know what the *&#@ Apple is up to. lol
If they don't refresh/renew the desktop lineup this year, I'm quite convinced that their mobile devices have taken priority enough that the desktops will stay in the backburner.
I'm on the ropes on a purchase. I want to get a new iMac but if Apple doesn't show the desktops some 'love', I don't feel like they want my money. If my crappy PC dies, I'll buy/build w/ the semi-latest hardware out there.
Let's see what happens next month.
I'm on the ropes on a purchase. I want to get a new iMac but if Apple doesn't show the desktops some 'love', I don't feel like they want my money. If my crappy PC dies, I'll buy/build w/ the semi-latest hardware out there.
Let's see what happens next month.
slightly less???? There is a huge gap between running unoptimized code and code that doesn't run at all. Frankly, there are huge number of apps out there that are not that highly tuned across Intel microarchitecture changes either. The difference between Intel and AMD at the non kernel level isn't that large for a vast majority applications.
For example when Intel's Haswell comes out the vast majority of apps won't be optimized for transactional memory semantics. Another example is the not so small number of applications and devices that run faster in Windows than they do on Mac OS X. ( some elements of Adobe CS , high performance USB devices , etc. all run slightly faster in Windows because in part more optimization tweaking time is spent on them. That doesn't keep the Mac OS X alternative from shipping until reach exact parity. )
They're not going to wait until Haswell availability to update the iMac. They're probably putting the finishing touches on some mind-blowing redesign that's going to turn heads and redefine the desktop (although, right now the only thing that's blowing my mind is how long they've taken to do it). There is no reason under the sun for Apple to skip a major revision of the CPU (and GPUs) in their product without tweaking their production line to accomodate the changes and maintain their product current/relevant/competitive. If they skip Ivy Bridge, it's because they've decided to skip the iMac. Boo.
There is no 64-bit ARM available to switch to, and won't be for quite some time.
Only thing I can think of is they're waiting on some kind of display tech, because all the other pieces have been ready and waiting for some time.
Alternately, they're screwing up, which is always possible.