No Imac M2 Oct .. :(

[harleymhs]

Im sure this has been discussed.. No mention on a M2 Imac at the Oct event. My wife wants a new Imac but I suggested she waits till Oct.. At this point I think its safe to say NO M2 Imac in Oct.. Crazy they will hold out till end of 2023 for a M3 Imac.. Never Know I guess. I'm sure the M1 would be find for her but at this point I just have to wait a few more weeks then order her the M1 Imac. Just venting a bit Sorry Guys..

 

[maflynn]

No mention on a M2 Imac at the Oct event.

Did I miss something? Did apple announce an October event?

Prior history of these events, seem to be that apple doesn't let the cat out of the bag stating what will be discussed, so not hearing anything from Apple about an upgrade to the iMac doesn't mean its not happening

 

[russell_314]

Did I miss something? Did apple announce an October event?

Prior history of these events, seem to be that apple doesn't let the cat out of the bag stating what will be discussed, so not hearing anything from Apple about an upgrade to the iMac doesn't mean its not happening

Exactly this. Maybe they give a week or so notice of the event but everything else is just speculation. It’s already October so you’ll know very soon.

Also, if it’s just the same iMac, but an updated processor that likely won’t even require an event. You’re just going to see it on the Apple store one day.

 

[maflynn]

Also, if it’s just the same iMac, but an updated processor that likely won’t even require an event. You’re just going to see it on the Apple store one day.

You hit the nail on the head. They just rolled out a redesign, so any updates to the existing iMacs will be just a spec bump.

With that said, I'd love a form factor larger then 24" That could tempt get one. I have an old 2015 iMac that's great, but unused at this time. I think I could work a larger model into my computer rotation

 

[satchmo]

Sadly, the once venerable iMac has become the forgotten product.

Perhaps because we can and do so much on mobile devices. And/or the lack of a larger 27" model has turned off even those who need a desktop.

I wonder if Apple's Studio Display with Mac mini hasn't caught on and a 27" iMac will resurface next year.
Or at the very least, a M2 upgrade to the 24".

 

[Kupo12]

Im sure this has been discussed.. No mention on a M2 Imac at the Oct event. My wife wants a new Imac but I suggested she waits till Oct.. At this point I think its safe to say NO M2 Imac in Oct.. Crazy they will hold out till end of 2023 for a M3 Imac.. Never Know I guess. I'm sure the M1 would be find for her but at this point I just have to wait a few more weeks then order her the M1 Imac. Just venting a bit Sorry Guys..

This. I, too, am bummed. I'm still using my ancient 27" 2010 imac and decided that the 27"+mini is too expensive for what it is. Especially considering the price of the display. I've given in to going the 24" route, but I really can't bring myself to using what is now considered old tech with the m2s rolling out and no additional ram above 16gb.

 

[Gudi]

Be angry at yourself. Excellent M1 iMacs can be picked up in mint condition for less than 1000 on the second-hand market right now. Only a fool would wait for a stupid M2. Even waiting for 27-inch is not worth it IMHO.

 

[ArkSingularity]

Be angry at yourself. Excellent M1 iMacs can be picked up in mint condition for less than 1000 on the second-hand market right now. Only a fool would wait for a stupid M2. Even waiting for 27-inch is not worth it IMHO.

There is no shame in waiting a few weeks to see if they release an updated version. Based on the OP's wording, I don't think money is the issue.

 

[Gudi]

There is no shame in waiting a few weeks to see if they release an updated version. Based on the OP's wording, I don't think money is the issue.

There won't be noticeable performance gains with the M2 and it's a desktop, so you can't even gain more battery life with a newer processor and the design will stay the same for years to come. The differences are so neglectable that Apple might even withhold from releasing an M2 iMac at all. So saving about a third of the purchase price is not even the issue. It's merely an added benefit to no longer waiting and not losing anything because of it. You want an iMac? Buy an iMac! Buy it now. This is the best of times.

 

[ArkSingularity]

There won't be noticeable performance gains with the M2 and it's a desktop, so you can't even gain more battery life with a newer processor and the design will stay the same for years to come. The differences are so neglectable that Apple might even withhold from releasing an M2 iMac at all. So saving about a third of the purchase price is not even the issue. It's merely an added benefit to no longer waiting and not losing anything because of it. You want an iMac? Buy an iMac! Buy it now. This is the best of times.

Everyone has a right to spend their money the way they want to. The M2 also has about a 10% uptick in general CPU performance benchmarks, and even more in the GPU benchmarks (especially for the unbinned model). That's not earth shattering, but that's not exactly negligible either.

We could talk about whether those performance benefits are "worth it," but it does not matter. The OP merely makes a thread discussing whether another updated iMac will arrive around the corner, and people come and attack the OP for wanting a "useless update when cheaper options are available."

 

[Gudi]

The M2 also has about a 10% uptick in general CPU performance benchmarks, and even more in the GPU benchmarks (especially for the unbinned model). That's not earth shattering, but that's not exactly negligible either.

Decades ago the rule of thumb was: a CPU speed increase of less than 30% is not noticeable to the average user. Today so many tasks happen instantly, that no amount of speed increase will ever make a difference. You have to transcode videos with a stopwatch to prove it's a faster chip.

Apple knows this and they want to offer their customers experienceable improvements with every update, not incremental increases of meaningless bullet points on a spec sheet. That's why there is a good chance that they will never build an M2 iMac in the first place, regardless of what everyone wants to do with their money.

It's Apple's money and limited pool of talent that will decide, when and if the iMac gets a refresh or if their resources are better spend on developing the Apple Watch Ultra right now.

 

[harleymhs]

There is no shame in waiting a few weeks to see if they release an updated version. Based on the OP's wording, I don't think money is the issue.

Exactly

 

[ArkSingularity]

Decades ago the rule of thumb was: a CPU speed increase of less than 30% is not noticeable to the average user. Today so many tasks happen instantly, that no amount of speed increase will ever make a difference. You have to transcode videos with a stopwatch to prove it's a faster chip.

Apple knows this and they want to offer their customers experienceable improvements with every update, not incremental increases of meaningless bullet points on a spec sheet. That's why there is a good chance that they will never build an M2 iMac in the first place, regardless of what everyone wants to do with their money.

It's Apple's money and limited pool of talent that will decide, when and if the iMac gets a refresh or if their resources are better spend on developing the Apple Watch Ultra right now.

Why does it matter whether the difference is perceptible to YOU? Perhaps the OP just wants to have the newest thing that is available and has decided it's worth waiting for it if it comes out in a couple of weeks. Perhaps the OP wants software support for as long as possible (Apple tends to give about 5 years of full software updates, the M2 will likely be supported for longer than the M1). Perhaps the OP doesn't desperately need a replacement yet and is just waiting for the update to see if it's around the corner. Perhaps the OP does extensive video editing and needs some of the M2's new hardware encoders and GPU cores.

None of those reasons might be worth it to you, but they might be worth it to some. People have a habit of assuming things and attacking people, and it accomplishes nothing. Neither you, nor I, know when the next iMac is coming. Anything anyone says around here is speculation, and there is no shame in discussing that.

 

[harleymhs]

Everyone has a right to spend their money the way they want to. The M2 also has about a 10% uptick in general CPU performance benchmarks, and even more in the GPU benchmarks (especially for the unbinned model). That's not earth shattering, but that's not exactly negligible either.

We could talk about whether those performance benefits are "worth it," but it does not matter. The OP merely makes a thread discussing whether another updated iMac will arrive around the corner, and people come and attack the OP for wanting a "useless update when cheaper options are available."

WELL SAID! Thank you !

 

[harleymhs]

Why does it matter whether the difference is perceptible to YOU? Perhaps the OP just wants to have the newest thing that is available and has decided it's worth waiting for it if it comes out in a couple of weeks. Perhaps the OP wants software support for as long as possible (Apple tends to give about 5 years of full software updates, the M2 will likely be supported for longer than the M1). Perhaps the OP doesn't desperately need a replacement yet and is just waiting for the update to see if it's around the corner.

None of those reasons might be worth it to you, but they might be worth it to some. People have a habit of assuming things and attacking people on these forums.

Exactly! If it was 6 months away , I wouldn't of posted this.. Weeks away to get a newer updated model is worth the wait! Not 6 months.. I called Apple yesterday and ordered the m1 Imac. She told me they would extend the return period for us.. Being it was an online order. They are much more lenient than the apple local stores here in the US. So I am safe for sure now. Ill wait to see what happens in a few weeks then go from there. if the M2 is more money we will probably stay with the Blue M1 Imac. Thank you for all your comments.

 

[satchmo]

Apple knows this and they want to offer their customers experienceable improvements with every update, not incremental increases of meaningless bullet points on a spec sheet. That's why there is a good chance that they will never build an M2 iMac in the first place, regardless of what everyone wants to do with their money.

Really? That’s Apple’s playbook consists of minor meaningless incremental updates. Just look at Apple watch and iPhone updates over the past few years.

 

[Gudi]

Why does it matter whether the difference is perceptible to YOU? Perhaps the OP just wants ...

Why does it matter what anybody wants? Apple builds Apple products and they're the only ones deciding what's important to them. If you like it or not, Apple tries to sell an experience. If the experience can not be improved noticeably, there won't be an update.

Neither you, nor I, know when the next iMac is coming. Anything anyone says around here is speculation, and there is no shame in discussing that.

You speculate, I make an educated guess. That's why my predictions for the future have a significantly higher probability to come true.

 

[shaown]

I think they will spec bump it and discontinue the m1

 

[Fishrrman]

I'd expect to see an m2 24" iMac early next year.

A 27" (or larger) display? Gonna be a while. Maybe a LONG while.

It seems like Apple has decided to back away from the iMac in their product lineup.
You could tell when the 24" m1 iMac appeared with only 2 USBc ports on the back, that they weren't putting much "design effort" into it any longer.

Looks like Apple's viewpoint is becoming:
- Get a MacBook Pro or MacBook Air
- If you don't want that, get a Mini or iMac 24"
- If you need more power (in a desktop), get the Mac Studio
- If you have-to-have "an iMac", here's the 24"...

 

[tstafford]

I don't get it. I keep seeing folks say that the 27" iMac is a long way off. Seems crazy to me. Everyone I know who owns the Intel versions loves them. Ours is just now losing support and we want a new one. Wife has no interest in dropping down to a 24" and I get that. Feels ridiculous to buy ASD and mini but I guess that's as close as one can get right now. I suppose the good news is that then upgrading the machine is cheaper/easier. Just swap out one mini for the next. Guess we'll wait for the M2 mini and then do our upgrade.

 

[Gudi]

Guess we'll wait for the M2 mini and then do our upgrade.

Don't do it. The Mac mini is ridiculously overpriced, unless you already own display, keyboard and mice. Buying everything separately from Apple is crazy. Just wait for the larger iMac, it will come eventually.

 

[pshufd]

I don't get it. I keep seeing folks say that the 27" iMac is a long way off. Seems crazy to me. Everyone I know who owns the Intel versions loves them. Ours is just now losing support and we want a new one. Wife has no interest in dropping down to a 24" and I get that. Feels ridiculous to buy ASD and mini but I guess that's as close as one can get right now. I suppose the good news is that then upgrading the machine is cheaper/easier. Just swap out one mini for the next. Guess we'll wait for the M2 mini and then do our upgrade.

The 2020 i7 is still for sale and OWC has some really good prices on Apple Refurbished units.