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I agree with you, of course apart from those "small" things:
- Better CPU than mini (desktop CPU's)
- Better RAM upgrade possibility (27")
- Better screen (glare/etc.)
- Better graphic card

You are right.
Ok, I was talking mostly about the 21 base model and my needs of course. Its more important to be able to upgrade RAM & SSD at a logical cost in the future than have a thin beautiful, better screen, better graphic card, sealed computer.:)
 
It's 2:30 in Cupertino so there's still a chance left, but it doesn't feel like happening today...this is getting depressing :(
 
Is anyone familiar with apple store updates? Is it too late for an update at this point?
 
Why is apple keeping us in the dark??

Why couldn't they at least comment like half way November? F annoying
 
Fushion Drive, better graphic card, better screen... It's thinner is the only thing you can see in the new iMac? New iMac is the future, old models past away

the look is just a bonus, an update was long due and those with imacs of a certain age would be doing the same thing in order to upgrade regradless of size and look.

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Why is apple keeping us in the dark??

Why couldn't they at least comment like half way November? F annoying

yea it seems strange why they couldnt just say " you will can pre order from xx" like with iphones and ipads releases of past. Even if its going to be delayed, at least let us pre order and not feel so fidgety about it ...
Its worrying cause I guess it could mean even they are not sure about meeting a deadline.
 
the look is just a bonus, an update was long due and those with imacs of a certain age would be doing the same thing in order to upgrade regradless of size and look.

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yea it seems strange why they couldnt just say " you will can pre order from xx" like with iphones and ipads releases of past. Even if its going to be delayed, at least let us pre order and not feel so fidgety about it ...
Its worrying cause I guess it could mean even they are not sure about meeting a deadline.

It seems there are problems with card payments when it comes to pre ordering, something to do with a 10 day limit before they have to renew something. i'm not well versed but there are reasons why they didn't do that originally. now however, im unsure
 
Fushion Drive, better graphic card, better screen... It's thinner is the only thing you can see in the new iMac? New iMac is the future, old models past away

To be fair, it did lose a firewire port. So for everyone who gets off on a daisy chained 800 Mbit/s, and doesn't want to spring for a $29 adapter, it's a massive, monstrous, colossal downgrade.

Also, because the 21.5 model now uses 2.5inch drives you lose the noise of the larger drives.

And also because the display is laminated to the front glass you lose the ability to see internal reflections of the screen. That means you are much less likely to see ghosting reflections from the screen itself. As a result, you only see one copy of each image at a time—not two, like before. That means your value proposition has been cut in half.

I want my money back, and I haven't even bought it yet.

Now, off to click reload on the Apple store...
 
You are right.
Ok, I was talking mostly about the 21 base model and my needs of course. Its more important to be able to upgrade RAM & SSD at a logical cost in the future than have a thin beautiful, better screen, better graphic card, sealed computer.:)

Firstly, I'm talking out my arse here, so I could be totally wrong ... but I will wager that this machine will be somewhat easier to service from the standpoint of replacing the SSD—and that you'll be able to replace the RAM (or upgrade it).

Obviously there's no chance RAM upgrades will be easy as they are in the current model, but here's why I think it'll be possible and also why I think it'll be easier to replace the drive.

The display assembly appears to be the only way to get inside the imac. There's roughly a zero chance that apple built no ways to service the insides, so the display assembly is the only route.

The display assembly is extremely unlikely to be laminated to the iMac. It's conceivable, but would make opening the machine a total pain in the ass. The thing that is laminated is the display to the glass.

In the old imac you used suction cups to remove the glass. Then you used a screwdriver to remove the LCD. Then you carefully removed the displayport cable. Mechanically this was pretty easy. The problem is that unless you were doing it in a clean room, you were really likely to get dust behind the glass.

Assuming that the new imac lets you pull the display and glass off in one step, the dust issue goes away. The biggest challenge that I foresee is that yanking the display off requires a bit of force, but you'll need to be careful not to use so much force that you can't put the breaks on in time to prevent the displayport cable from breaking. (It's latched onto the mobo in all likelihood. Hopefully there's enough give so that this won't be an issue.)

I'd be willing to bet $0.20 that this is the way the display will come off and that it will be screwless—making it easier to access the internals than the old imac.

But here's what I'd be worried about:

1) Will the RAM slots be easily accessible with the display removed? Or will you have to pull out the mobo. If you have to remove the mobo, the pain in the ass factor just skyrocketed.

2) Same question as #1 for the HD

3) Assuming you can easily yank out the HD, will it have a proprietary temp sensor (for fan control) like the 2011 models? If so, can it be easily defeated? (On 2011 models, some SSDs automatically seemed to be compatible. Alternatively, certain sata power adapters would do the trick.)

4) Presumably there will be a spot for adding an SSD card like the MBPr and MBA. Will that spot use the same connector? If so, big win for OWC—and for users who want a spinning drive and an SSD.
 
This must be your first Mac launch. The store can be down for several hours just to update.

The store also usually goes down after 12am PST.

I know that. I've been using Macs since 1992. I was just saying that it takes little time to copy over the web page code. It's already been written and tested. I believe that they take it down for dramatic effect.
 
So what happened? Any thoughts on what to expect this go round, based on what you experienced?

I used it for almost 3 years and sold it before the HDD recall, which my machine was a part of. It was a great computer, but man did it run hot, and I had that ghosting / screen burn grey lines in the top left corner of the screen. I needed the computer at the time, so I have no regrets, but now that I can wait / don't need an iMac, I certainly would wait for the 1st update.
 
I know that. I've been using Macs since 1992. I was just saying that it takes little time to copy over the web page code. It's already been written and tested. I believe that they take it down for dramatic effect.

Ah, my apologies then. Yea I believe it's for dramatic effect as well. The hype machine at work. A little too dramatic I think. I don't think I've ever seen competing PC vendors going to extreme downtimes just to update one product.
 
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