No Ins key or binding: Pain in the Ass

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by rmacd, Sep 1, 2010.

  1. rmacd macrumors newbie

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    Hello,

    I've recently bought a MBP, the new unibody model. It's been fine so far, I come from a linux background so I've not had too hard a time of it.

    BUT: There is no insert key.

    Google throws up results from 2006-07 with suggestions to use the 'help' key. However, the new MBP's don't have a 'help' key. Using other suggestions such as the Fn+Return does not work either.

    I'd appreciate if some light could be shed on this issue - I'm finding it impossible to keep up with what I need to do.

    Please don't tell me I "don't need to use it" or "Macs don't need Insert keys... they're not like other computers" etc. If you use a terminal every day like I do, you'll know what the Ins key is/is used for. (I might as well say it right now)
     
  2. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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  3. rmacd thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for the shameless plug, but as I've inferred (read my post) I've already spent a good deal of time throwing queries into Google ;-)

    In addition, the post to which you refer is yet another mid-2006 post, with a completely different solution which doesn't work on the newer unibody model that I have.
     
  4. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    It's not a plug, as I have no vested interest in MRoogle. Just a suggestion that helps in the vast majority of cases.

    You may or may not have already run across this (don't know if it helps or not, but worth a shot):

    Add an Insert key in Terminal and X11's xterm
     
  5. rmacd thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Actually yes, it's helpful thank you. I've been using the terminal bindings as it explains there (along with the home/end keys) and it seems to work fine.

    Another very good link is below, which includes the vast majority of bindings

    http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~jrus/Site/KeyBindings/Windows%20Bindings.dict

    However, I'm still stuck without the use of the Ins key on the VM (VirtualBox) - currently running Debian and Plan9 systems. Nothing's yet come up which'd allow me the functionality of the Insert key.

    I'm seriously considering using my one-phonecall AppleCare support option to sort this out once and for all.
     
  6. Stingray454 macrumors 6502a

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    Checked the VirtualBox documentation? In VMWare for Mac there are shortcuts to enable insert on the hosted system (I think it's FN+m, but not sure). There should be something similar in VirtualBox.

    Also, the program KeyRemap4Macbook has an option to remap FN+Return to insert in both VMWare and Parallels, but it doesn't specify VirtualBox. Sadly this program doesn't have a generic remap to get insert functionality for OS X, but it does for VM's.
     
  7. rmacd thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Yes, there do exist bindings for the VM but TBH if there was some way of getting the Ins functionality like found on the older MBP's, with the Fn+Return, I'd be very happy.

    As it turns out (I'm in the middle of telephoning Apple) my MBP, bought 2 weeks ago, has a slightly different layout that is different from the previous model. Apple's KB hasn't been updated to reflect this so we'll see what happens once I'm off from caller-hold.
     
  8. Stingray454 macrumors 6502a

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    Ok, please keep us updated - it's an interesting problem :)
     
  9. rmacd thread starter macrumors newbie

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    So after 50 minutes, 2 specialists and a referral to one of the software engineers, it appears they're stumped.

    Indeed, on closer inspection, the newest unibodies have a different keyboard from what's currently on the Apple KB (see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1167) or, apparently, on the Intel Duo MBP's.

    I'll be getting an email back within a couple of days with an answer (so they say) so I'll keep you updated to what's going on.

    In the meantime here's a photo of my keyboard - would someone like to upload a picture of their own, if they've a MBP model previous to this? One of the Core Duo's?

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Stingray454 macrumors 6502a

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    Beeing from Sweden, my layout ofc differs a bit with swedish characters, but the size/position of the keys looks like the image below (on my late 2008 13" unibody). I've seen the same layout on older macbooks with english keyboard as well.

    [​IMG]
     

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