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iPhone SE (2016) No iOS 16 for iPhone SE1

turbineseaplane

turbineseaplane

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Well

As expected folks..
The end of the road begins now for our beloved OGSE

Of course, it's not an immediate problem as things will continue to work just fine for a good long while.

I'd say the real issues might come in about a year and a half when iOS 17 is out and App developers really start to abandon iOS 15 support, particularly if it involves any kind of server side support.
 
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minik said:
It's about time to leave them behind.
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Not complaining about it

Just making note of it

A lot of us sticking to phones like the OGSE use our iPhones very differently and less intensively than the majority of iPhone enthusiasts anyhow. Being behind the latest is all good until software support fades eventually.

I'm hopeful there will be an iPhone Mini based SE by the time I truly need to abandon my OGSE
 
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turbineseaplane said:
iPhone SE1/6S: A9 2GB RAM no iOS 16
iPad 5: A9 2GB RAM yes iPadOS 16

Hmm…..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1533885094229950465
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Wouldn't be the first time Apple does weird things like this. Same with Macs. Plenty of low end Macs from less than 4 years ago get new software updates while older way more powerful models get neglected simply because of their age. Luckily for Macs there are always unofficial ways to install new releases but sadly for their mobile devices we're out of luck..
 
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Heindijs said:
Wouldn't be the first time Apple does weird things like this. Same with Macs. Plenty of low end Macs from less than 4 years ago get new software updates while older way more powerful models get neglected simply because of their age. Luckily for Macs there are always unofficial ways to install new releases but sadly for their mobile devices we're out of luck..
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Sort of crappy…especially since they know folks are out there hanging on to SE1 specifically for the physical size.
 
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I was still using iOS 9 all the way to when iOS 14 was out.
Scare tactics of “you’re not going to be supported” are just that.
Most apps that require the most recent iOS version are unnecessary anyway (financial apps). Their websites still work fine.
 
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now i see it said:
I was still using iOS 9 all the way to when iOS 14 was out.
Scare tactics of “you’re not going to be supported” are just that.
Most apps that require the most recent iOS version are unnecessary anyway (financial apps). Their websites still work fine.
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Sometimes it can be something that's just a useful thing that folks use (like a certain podcast app, etc)

Anything with server syncing can start to throw up big issues for a user if you get a couple iOS versions behind.

For the SE1, I don't anticipate anything like that until iOS 17 is out and in wide use...so nearly 2 years really.
 
Heindijs said:
Wouldn't be the first time Apple does weird things like this. Same with Macs. Plenty of low end Macs from less than 4 years ago get new software updates while older way more powerful models get neglected simply because of their age. Luckily for Macs there are always unofficial ways to install new releases but sadly for their mobile devices we're out of luck..
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At least for Mac, there is an excuse about driver support from vendors like Qualcomm and Intel hardware vulnerabilities.

iPadOS 16 support for A9 but not for iPhone doesn't make any sense.
 
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JPack said:
At least for Mac, there is an excuse about driver support from vendors like Qualcomm and Intel hardware vulnerabilities.

iPadOS 16 support for A9 but not for iPhone doesn't make any sense.
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They did that with the iPad Mini 4 which supports iOS 15 whereas the iPhone 6 with the same chip was left unsupported.
 
Andeddu said:
They did that with the iPad Mini 4 which supports iOS 15 whereas the iPhone 6 with the same chip was left unsupported.
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True..
But I think we are right to not be happy about it.

The SE1 is just it's own case of "I wish they'd support it as long as possible" given the reason most folks are still using it. (physical size)
 
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Andeddu said:
They did that with the iPad Mini 4 which supports iOS 15 whereas the iPhone 6 with the same chip was left unsupported.
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iPad mini 4 had 2GB RAM. iPhone 6 had 1GB.

In the case of iOS 16, it makes no sense A9/2GB is supported for iPadOS 16 but iOS requires A11/2GB.
 
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turbineseaplane said:
True..
But I think we are right to not be happy about it.

The SE1 is just it's own case of "I wish they'd support it as long as possible" given the reason most folks are still using it. (physical size)
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I too find it a strange quirk of iPad/iPhone seeing as iOS and iPadOS are basically the same thing.

The SE1 no longer being supported after iOS 15 is no surprise to me so I am not particularly disappointed. I still use my SE as my daily driver and will continue to do so until October. Six years of solid support is commendable from Apple so I am glad they paid so much care and attention to our beloved small phone.
 
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iPad mini 4 had 2GB RAM. iPhone 6 had 1GB.

In the case of iOS 16, it makes no sense A9/2GB is supported for iPadOS 16 but iOS requires A11/2GB.
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Fair enough. My iPad Mini 4 has been well worth the money as I purchased one on release back in 2015 and expect it to still be usable and not lose app support until fall 2024.
 
As someone who has used various iPhones long after the last update I can say, it's not too bad. Stuff still works. Not all of it, but mostly the stuff you had installed.

My son has the original SE so he's stuck too. But for him, that's a secondary phone. We got him an SE 2020 last year so he should still be good with that phone.
 
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JPack said:
iPad mini 4 had 2GB RAM. iPhone 6 had 1GB.

In the case of iOS 16, it makes no sense A9/2GB is supported for iPadOS 16 but iOS requires A11/2GB.
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ipados doesn’t have the new lock screen features which may be heavy
 
JPack said:
At least for Mac, there is an excuse about driver support from vendors like Qualcomm and Intel hardware vulnerabilities.

iPadOS 16 support for A9 but not for iPhone doesn't make any sense.
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My OG ipad pro 12,9" with A9/4GB from 2015 is still supported what was unexpected...
And that thing is slow even on ios 12.

I would preferred to have support for ventura on my 15" 2015 MBP instead of the iPad.
 
now i see it said:
I was still using iOS 9 all the way to when iOS 14 was out.
Scare tactics of “you’re not going to be supported” are just that.
Most apps that require the most recent iOS version are unnecessary anyway (financial apps). Their websites still work fine.
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They should still get security updates for a year though, so not completely unsupported, yet. Although I was amazed when the 6 got an update 2/3 years after it was supported.
 
I’ve been using iPhone 5s as secondary devices, with a throwaway phone number for online account registrations, as a backup security token/device for online banking etc., or to use a foreign SIM for roaming.

A device released in 2013, unning iOS 12, which was originally released in 2018 - but received its latest security update, iOS 12.5.5 less than a year ago, in september 2021. Not too bad. And apps also worked for what little I needed them for. Even WhatsApp and Google Maps. Just slowly.

I think Apple knows that there are still loads of SE/6s devices in use, handed down to family members etc. - and I hope they’ll provide important security updates in a similar way.
 
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AppliedMicro said:
I’ve been using iPhone 5s as secondary devices, with a throwaway phone number for online account registrations, as a backup security token/device for online banking etc., or to use a foreign SIM for roaming.

A device released in 2013, unning iOS 12, which was originally released in 2018 - but received its latest security update, iOS 12.5.5 less than a year ago, in september 2021. Not too bad. And apps also worked for what little I needed them for. Even WhatsApp and Google Maps. Just slowly.

I think Apple knows that there are still loads of SE/6s devices in use, handed down to family members etc. - and I hope they’ll provide important security updates in a similar way.
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My daughter has my wife's old 6s while I still use my 6s+ as a secondary phone (useful for walks or when doing activity that could damage my primary phone).

I had my 11PM replaced about a month ago and was thus using my 6s+ during that time. The Apple genius saw it and was shocked to still see a phone with a home button.
 
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