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No iOS 5 for iPhone 3GS?
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Android is quick to add new features, unfortunately with all of the stupid manufacturers thinking they need to add their custom skins on top, the releases roll out very slowly. Many devices had to wait months for Froyo, some are still waiting, and we now have gingerbread released, devices waiting on that, and Ice Cream announced...
Can I borrow your time machine so I can see what iOS 5 looks like and its requirements?
This news should be a surprise to no one, ESPECIALLY to people who have been here a while like yourself.
If you are still on a 3GS as a developer perhaps you need to rethink your business model.
You do realize that the 3GS hardware is virtually identical to the iPhone 4 hardware, right? Aside from the iPhone 4 having double the RAM (512 vs 256), everything else is the same. Same CPU, just clocked a tad slower, and exactly the same GPU. Unless iOS 5 is heavily RAM dependent, there should be no reason it couldn't run on the 3GS if it runs fine on the iPhone 4.
Yup. And the ability to run iOS 5 when it is released.
But Apple isn't into cheaper products when it compromises the quality, they'd rather sell the older previously-high end product cheaper.
I can't think of much reason why the 3GS can't run something the A4 can, the CPUs aren't that different, the features in the SoCs aren't that different. Maybe it's just because everything is retina now and they don't want to provide non-retina material in iOS5. And the iPad had 256MB RAM and presumably is getting iOS5, so it's not the amount of RAM either.
iOS 4 orphaned the original iPhone.
iOS 5 should orphan the 3G, not 3G *and* 3GS.
Maybe iOS5 has been redesigned so that uses the extra pixels of the retina display? Thus making it unusable on a 320x480 display?
It's more than just the overall specs. Chances are 5 could have more reliance on Retina. If that's true, then the 3Gs won't run it, regardless of the chipset or ram.
Tell me what feature we expect in iOS 5 that is going to drive performance requirements. We're commenting on a rumor here. Why would you expect hard facts to discuss the hypotheticals of this rumor?
Second, who said this is surprising? Most of us arguing against are saying its bad practice and likely going to be a bogus explanation. Sometimes apple does things that make sense like not giving the 3G multi-tasking. Other times it's arbitrarily withholding features to force users to upgrade.
It's possible, but it behooves one to think of a reason that would necessitate it. They coexist now.
Would be a big mistake if they did. Tons of people still have a 3Gs including myselfAnd it would be ridiculous if they're selling a phone that can't run the latest software!
As soon as iOS5 is introduced they will discontinue the 3GS, which will be replaced by the iPhone 4, which itself will be replaced by the iPhone 5 or 4S or whatever they will call it.
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everyone begs for all the latest OS software technologies and then whines when old hardware will not run it; I will never understand the logic of vilifying apple for its greed as the determining factor-get a grip on it folks...
Hellhammer said:
everyone begs for all the latest OS software technologies and then whines when old hardware will not run it; I will never understand the logic of vilifying apple for its greed as the determining factor-get a grip on it folks...
This is EXACTLY why when asked what Mac I should buy, I always say the BEST you can afford. Cause eventually Apple will come out with a software upgrade that WILL NOT run on your device.
Cest la vie!
Cest la vie!
Geez
The whining is amazing. If you want the latest, upgrade and get it. The $150 difference between the 3GS and 4 is peanuts compared to the contract.
I am still on a 3GS and it runs great. Due for upgrade next month. Might wait and see what 5 is like. But it's not like I'm using two tin cans and a string.
The whining is amazing. If you want the latest, upgrade and get it. The $150 difference between the 3GS and 4 is peanuts compared to the contract.
I am still on a 3GS and it runs great. Due for upgrade next month. Might wait and see what 5 is like. But it's not like I'm using two tin cans and a string.
If this means that iOS5 is a major overhaul that the 3GS can't support effectively, then by all means I support this.
I'm pretty sure iOS 5 will support the 3GS, just without some of the new features. It will probably get the improved notifications and the updated apps but not the new voice recognition (or something
It's not like this rumor came from Phil Schiller. As was stated, the 3GS has the same amount of RAM as the iPad 1, and there's no way that won't be supported. The fact that the 3GS has such a low resolution screen actually allows it to do some graphical things faster than the iPhone 4.
It's not like this rumor came from Phil Schiller. As was stated, the 3GS has the same amount of RAM as the iPad 1, and there's no way that won't be supported. The fact that the 3GS has such a low resolution screen actually allows it to do some graphical things faster than the iPhone 4.
3GS initially shipped with OS 3.0. So, 3GS owners are only getting release OS + 1 in this case...
does anyone think apple is eventually turning the iphone and ipad into killer gaming devices? Complete against Sony and Nintendo...
So should we sing praise songs to Apple instead? The only reasonable reason why Apple does not support the older iPhone is greed. Or can you come up with a better reason, especially when 3GS' hardware is very similar to iP4?
This is EXACTLY why when asked what Mac I should buy, I always say the BEST you can afford. Cause eventually Apple will come out with a software upgrade that WILL NOT run on your device.
Cest la vie!
Doesn't really matter because the hardware generations are the same. If Apple decides to stop supporting Core 2 Duo Macs, then it doesn't matter what Mac you bought back in 2008, as they all had C2D.
Not a surprise, really.
From Apple's iPhone License (pdf)
Since the 3GS shipped with iOS 3, they would be guaranteed support through iOS 4.x.
From Apple's iPhone License (pdf)
Since the 3GS shipped with iOS 3, they would be guaranteed support through iOS 4.x.
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I love how people still claim this is about making money. We've already seen why iPhone 4.0 wasn't for the original iPhone or really even the 3G, the OS is too complex for the hardware. The iPhone 4 has twice as much ram as the 3GS and a significantly faster processor, and the a5 will be even more ridiculous. Why crimp on features for the people forking up for new phones rather than continuing to support legacy hardware. Honestly, the people buying 3GS now are looking for a budget, simple smat phone, many of the would probably not upgrade to 5.0 for sometime even if it was available to them, and most of them probably wouldnt notice the newest features.
Hellhammer said:
I love how people still claim this is about making money. We've already seen why iPhone 4.0 wasn't for the original iPhone or really even the 3G, the OS is too complex for the hardware. The iPhone 4 has twice as much ram as the 3GS and a significantly faster processor, and the a5 will be even more ridiculous. Why crimp on features for the people forking up for new phones rather than continuing to support legacy hardware. Honestly, the people buying 3GS now are looking for a budget, simple smat phone, many of the would probably not upgrade to 5.0 for sometime even if it was available to them, and most of them probably wouldnt notice the newest features.