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No 'iTunes In The Cloud' for United Kingdom Until 2012

Heck, I know that it would suck if I had to wait for the service, but this happens EVERY time a new service comes out...it's nothing new. US first, then elsewhere...no doubt due to laws, etc, and the negotiations being easier being a US-based company. I'm not saying it's fair, I'm just saying it's not like you don't know it's coming.
 
scottparker999 said:
And rightly so? Why can't apple negotiate in several countries concurrently?
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From the article you supposedly just read:

Vice president and research director at Forrester Research told The Telegraph "the UK arms of all the major record labels are biding their time and waiting to see how the service affects download sales in the US before they sign up to anything."
 
The UK music industry hasn't got a clue. Let them go on dragging their heels while people go on stealing music. Something about cake and eating it too?
 
Wait and see “how it will affect sales”?

Does this mean they actually think that a profitably large number of people buy a song, want it on another device too, and then pay for it AGAIN there, rather than face the hassle of synching it over? Thus, super-easy synching would be bad for sales? And making music simpler would not be good for sales?

Or is it really just the iTunes Match part that worries them? Do they think CD-rippers and music pirates are tech-savvy enough to get a song onto their computer, but not enough to manage the automatic transfer of that music to their other devices? And will therefore pay for the song on each device as a last resort? Thus, again, super-easy synching would be bad for sales? And getting $25/year from that strange pirate is worse than getting $0?
 
Presumably the same goes then for downloading of past music purchases. Not good.
 
I'd say the UK music industry is quite possibly the b**tard child of a thousand maniacs. They play the true devils game!

This Frood is not impressed!!
 
BLACKFRIDAY said:
Are we talking about a competition over here?

Why do people need to insert: A wins, B wins comments in every single thread?
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My custom that is. As Spotify has been in the UK for many years now. Been a subscriber for many years, however looked forward to Apple's cloud offerings. It seems now, I'll be sticking to Spotify.

You must be mad if you thought I meant Spotify was going to kill of iTunes.
 
roadbloc said:
My custom that is. As Spotify has been in the UK for many years now. Been a subscriber for many years, however looked forward to Apple's cloud offerings. It seems now, I'll be sticking to Spotify.

You must be mad if you thought I meant Spotify was going to kill of iTunes.
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Do I care?

I just got a spotify subscription for myself.

But I guess, if that's how you roll, cool.
 
scottparker999 said:
And rightly so? Why can't apple negotiate in several countries concurrently?
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They can try. The problem in situations like this is virtually always the labels. And it wasn't easy to get just the US contracts signed, once it's running and successful in the US, that gives Apple more leverage to bring it to the rest of the world.
 
For me this sums up the music industry as a whole. Too worried and scared about the impact of something innovative that they sit still. Only making things worse for themselves. Still they pull stunts like this but still want the Government to take action on file sharing etc.
 
Bl*&dy typical! Stone-age Britain hits the pan again! How did we ever get to be the 6th largest economy in the world? Oh well, back to file-sharing and flook the record companies!
 
milo said:
They can try. The problem in situations like this is virtually always the labels. And it wasn't easy to get just the US contracts signed, once it's running and successful in the US, that gives Apple more leverage to bring it to the rest of the world.
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Surely they are largely the same labels in the UK as the states though?
 
All this talk about inequality amongst (and because of) borders makes me think. I think that maybe the money and licensing have most to do with this, but Apple has the rest of the blame. I would imagine that a full worldwide release, occurring concurrently across several continents, of anything, even if it is digital, has got to be quite an undertaking, and certainly is very difficult. Even when the licensing issues aren't standing in the way, and the release is of a device (iPhone 4 and iPads are good examples), they give themselves 2 weeks buffer before the rest of the world starts getting it. And we saw with iPad 2 how well only two weeks worked. They release in America first because, after all, they are an American company.

So, basically suck it Europe. Asia. Wherever. You'll get it when you get it. Remember though, mostly, the hold up is because someone wants to get rich off of it first with licensing, etc.

"I feel no sense of entitlement because I'm American and get a digital service before anyone else in the world gets it. Um, so what? Further, if something as popular world wide were to be released, something on a grander scale than the popularity of Apple devices (can't think of many things) and Europe got it first, I wouldn't whine about it, nor defend it if someone told me to shut up about it," says hismikeness (who just wrote a long-ish post about it).

At its core, this isn't even an equality issue. Because, there's a lot of humans that have more to worry about than when the next gadget will be around. Like how to get flies off their eyeballs. Well, they can suck it too. Maybe one day they'll have pre-foaming hand soap like we do in America. Ughhhhh.

I mean really...
 
milo said:
They can try. The problem in situations like this is virtually always the labels. And it wasn't easy to get just the US contracts signed, once it's running and successful in the US, that gives Apple more leverage to bring it to the rest of the world.
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That's the smartest comment on here.
 
Still waiting to get TV episodes on the NZ store, I doubt we'll ever get either those or this streaming/matching stuff now.

One thing I was wondering about the iTunes match is if they don't have some of your music, will they ask if you want to upload it to the cloud? I recall Steve saying years ago the intention was to have every piece of music ever written up on the store, and it would be a nice touch if Apple offered to pirate your music that they didn't have :D.
 
It's not a surprise, many of us had already predicted something like this would happen, even before the keynote had revealed exactly what we were going to get. Of course Apple is always going to concentrate on it's home market and by all accounts only managed to get the last of the US labels on board at the eleventh hour.

The UK usually gets the deal with the second batch of countries to come on line. At least it should be trouble free by the time we get it after our American friends have been kind enough to bug test it and iron out all the problems for the rest of the world. :)
 
jon1987 said:
Surely we got the right to be at least a little upset about it. No one likes to wait.
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That's fair, it's just some people come off like "what in the world???" when this happens every single time they launch a service. There is nothing new and surprising about it, it should be expected.
 
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