No jump back feature on AppleTV 4K without Siri remote?

[Wolfpup]

I read this somewhere and want to double check. I’d been leaning towards an Apple TV for the security. I don’t trust Roku and especially not Amazon.

but I’d be using an IR remote exclusively with it....and just read that you can fast forward and rewind, but there’s no jump back functionality like everything else has (unless you use the Siri remote).

is that true? Because that takes it out of the running if it’s true

 

[JBaby]

Not true. You can skip forward and back 10sec with the trackpad on the remote.

 

[Wolfpup]

Not true. You can skip forward and back 10sec with the trackpad on the remote.

thanks, but I’m talking about WITHOUT using the Siri remote, like someone was saying if you’re using any other remote like an IR remote, you don’t have access to jumping forward and backwards? Only rewind/fast forward? (Which would be too clunky for me)

 

[JBaby]

thanks, but I’m talking about WITHOUT using the Siri remote, like someone was saying if you’re using any other remote like an IR remote, you don’t have access to jumping forward and backwards? Only rewind/fast forward? (Which would be too clunky for me)

tv isn’t for you then.

 

[-Gonzo-]

thanks, but I’m talking about WITHOUT using the Siri remote, like someone was saying if you’re using any other remote like an IR remote, you don’t have access to jumping forward and backwards? Only rewind/fast forward? (Which would be too clunky for me)

Yes you can have those functions, in the ATV settings under remote and devices there’s a learn remote function where you can put all the remote functions(except Siri) on any spare IR remote you may have that you’d like to use.

 

[Wolfpup]

Yes you can have those functions, in the ATV settings under remote and devices there’s a learn remote function where you can put all the remote functions(except Siri) on any spare IR remote you may have that you’d like to use.

okay, so it looks like the two on the end on that last picture are probably jump forward/back? Thank goodness! I was starting to think I needed to avoid appleTV, after having pretty much settled on it because I trust the security way more than Roku or Amazon (or Nvidia, I guess).

Thanks!

now I guess I’m back to waiting for the elusive update ?

 

[SanJoseEd]

It is true that the ATV 4K remote sux big time, especially motion commands provided by swiping or clicking the mini trackpad.

The remote that came with an LG e9 OLED TV that the ATV4K is connected to worked out of the box with the ATV 4K when the ATV4K was connected to the LG's CEC HDMI port (#4). Skips forward / backward with its ring control, etc. Even ff and reverse in increments up to 4x speed, which I don't think the ATV controller will do. All ATV 4K functions are mirrored on the LG 'magic' controller except anything you would swipe the surface of the trackpad for, and the volume if it is set for the connected homepod airplay speakers. Yes, the LG is an airplay device, but only as a receiver, will not transmit audio to airplay devices (LG!!, saved by the e9's exemplary native 4.2 speaker set up). I often reach for the ATV controller and after the first glitchy response, I switch to the LG. As Gonzo says, it looks like you can program other controllers via the ATV4's settings panes. I never had to go there with the LG.

 

[priitv8]

It works also via HDMI-CEC using my Sony Bravia remote.
The Cursor keys allow for free timeline scrolling, chapter keys jump 10 seconds.

 

[HDFan]

Works without any Apple TV configuration with my Harmony remote.

 

[convergent]

It works also via HDMI-CEC using my Sony Bravia remote.
The Cursor keys allow for free timeline scrolling, chapter keys jump 10 seconds.

How do you find the responsiveness of the Sony remote? I have tried a number of remotes to get the best experience for my family - Sony via CEC, Sony via learning, One for All Streamer, an old Roku remote, Caavo, and also have a Harmony. With moving from cable to all streaming, I am simplifying my setup to just an Apple TV 4K and a BluRay player. So not wanting the complex remotes.

The last two I was down to were the One for All and the Sony via CEC. I just find the responsiveness of the Sony remote a little sluggish in comparison. Frankly, the best experience is the Caavo, because it replicates the Home button via Bluetooth, but I don't want the expense and complexity of a Caavo on every TV... and its way overkill. Its amazing that someone can't come out with a decent Apple TV remote that replicates all its functions with buttons... or that Apple can't make a real TV remote that includes buttons and a trackpad. But I've spent many years wishing that Apple would do something like that and they will never admit that they did something wrong with the design of the Siri Remote.

 

[priitv8]

Responsiveness is a little sluggis, but it is not because of the remote. It is because Sony AndroidTV. Or a little weak SoC for that challenging task.