Just got a chance to skim through the WWDC Keynote details and noticed that the Beta won't be available to us through the ADC site. Anyone else pissed that as a select/premium member, you don't get access to the beta seed? I run a few servers on OS X and OS X Server so I joined the ADC to get a chance to test the new versions of Apache/Postfix/etc and ensure compatiblity. Is this a common thing for them to do?
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No Leopard Beta seed for ADC members?
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Me too - I was about to re-up after a year or so off, but not if I won't get the latest... I'll just wait if not.
Can't find the transcript now but didn't Steve sayt they were going to do a tightly controlled seed distribution?
Really keeping a lid on the OS this time...maybe they should just do a Public Beta, so we can all be happy!
We're looking into where that comment came from, as neither szark nor I heard it or (obviously) transcribed it. A quick review of the keynote video also suggests that Steve never made the comment. No other site covering the keynote mentions this either.
I suspect it was an error by Ben from MacSlash, who was also transcribing for us. Either that or gremlins.
I think developers who aren't at WWDC can rest assured that they'll be receiving copies in due time. Those at the conference picked them up today immediately after the keynote. Bags were picked up with registration...they only included t-shirts and programs.
I suspect it was an error by Ben from MacSlash, who was also transcribing for us. Either that or gremlins.
I think developers who aren't at WWDC can rest assured that they'll be receiving copies in due time. Those at the conference picked them up today immediately after the keynote. Bags were picked up with registration...they only included t-shirts and programs.
I just recently ponied up for the Select membership last week, knowing that I'll be getting a Mac Pro in the next few months, am interested in OS X Server, and of course Leopard. (And yes I am a software developer by trade, even using macs at work 
). So I'm definitely interested to find out whether or not the Leopard Seed is going to be passed out to us. I got the impression from Jobs once during the Keynote that it was only for WWDC attendees....but hopefully they won't leave the rest of us out.
I'm just dying to try the .Mac feature of being able to access securely our Macs all over the place...a very welcome replacement for using sshfs when working from home, I hope.
). So I'm definitely interested to find out whether or not the Leopard Seed is going to be passed out to us. I got the impression from Jobs once during the Keynote that it was only for WWDC attendees....but hopefully they won't leave the rest of us out.I'm just dying to try the .Mac feature of being able to access securely our Macs all over the place...a very welcome replacement for using sshfs when working from home, I hope.
I thought I read something about it being "for now", but that the rest of us who couldn't attend could download it later on. Eventually. Can't seem to find it now, but I assume it is coming. Patience I suppose.
The WWDC promos were saying something to the effect of "Leopard Beta available first at WWDC". Available first, not available only. I assume it's coming
Did the last Leopard alpha work the same way? If I recall correctly, it was released on DVD at the keynote but wasn't added to Connect until a little while later.
Did the last Leopard alpha work the same way? If I recall correctly, it was released on DVD at the keynote but wasn't added to Connect until a little while later.
I'm a Select ADC member, and the current 9A140 build is FAR too buggy. XCode 3 is constantly crashing, even the documentation reader crashes if you use it too quickly.
Steve's quote was after he showed Safari 3 on Windows.
If they don't release a seed on the ADC site soon, it will really piss me off. I paid £319 for the ADC membership last month to develop my application using Core Animation, and am having a lot of problems with stability issues on the current seed.
Steve's quote was after he showed Safari 3 on Windows.
If they don't release a seed on the ADC site soon, it will really piss me off. I paid £319 for the ADC membership last month to develop my application using Core Animation, and am having a lot of problems with stability issues on the current seed.
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Same thing here, company sprung for the $500 "Early Access" program, apparently it means early access to what we deem you worthy of getting, not everything we have to give. This should cause riots in the streets... I mean, it's not just the WWDC TAX of having to pay the extra admission to get what the ADC membership should have already given you, but what if your schedule just simply did not allow you to be there, so you are denied being able to test your apps with the latest? This royally sucks.
Same thing here, company sprung for the $500 "Early Access" program, apparently it means early access to what we deem you worthy of getting, not everything we have to give. This should cause riots in the streets... I mean, it's not just the WWDC TAX of having to pay the extra admission to get what the ADC membership should have already given you, but what if your schedule just simply did not allow you to be there, so you are denied being able to test your apps with the latest? This royally sucks.
Yeah, as Nermal said, it clearly says "available at WWDC first" on the dev site. We'll get it. Of course we'll get it. Just not yet. WWDC isn't even over yet guys. Chill, it'll come.
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Thank you for contacting the Apple Developer Connection regarding Mac OS X Leopard.
Please know that WWDC07 attendees received a beta copy of Mac OS X Leopard.
We have not made any further announcements regarding the availability of the beta version of Mac OS X Leopard.
Please stay tuned to our email broadcasts and the WWDC website for any further announcements.
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Not sure what to make of that, but i'm guessing it won't be available for a while. So now we just wait...
Thank you for contacting the Apple Developer Connection regarding Mac OS X Leopard.
Please know that WWDC07 attendees received a beta copy of Mac OS X Leopard.
We have not made any further announcements regarding the availability of the beta version of Mac OS X Leopard.
Please stay tuned to our email broadcasts and the WWDC website for any further announcements.
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Not sure what to make of that, but i'm guessing it won't be available for a while. So now we just wait...
That is the EXACT same response I got from ADC last year and a month later it was on the ADC website.
Alright, it's good to hear from some more experienced ADC users what the trend is. I'm sure they have good reasons to only make it available to WWDC attendees first (keep leaks to a minimum, get some good feedback from the biggest developers). As long as we have access to it within a month I'm good. Two months is enough to ensure compatibility with our network.
The early start kit isn't really a kit. It is a set of downloadable resources, which includes the ADC seed builds. It is more marketing and additional resources (like being able to use iTunes to get at WWDC materials) than it is anything truly new.