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Miltz

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When Apple came out with the 2017 MBP models they were almost identical to the 2016 Models with the exception of the CPU handling 10bit coding. There was no real updates. Apple now has chance to make the late 2018 MBP or early 2019 model a better laptop. I've made a small list of things that I think the laptop needs to remain competitive in the Pro Space.

1. 6 Core mobile CPU's
2. 32GB of LPDDR4
3. A real update to the 460 and 560 Radeon GPU which are identical.
4. 10 bit Display - 100% Adobe RGB
5. New Keyboard design in terms of durability
6. Maintain their lead in SSD performance in laptops perhaps reaching 3,500mb/s in read and writes.

I think the are waiting on Intel as always when it comes to CPUs. And perhaps the keyboard design is giving them an issue, as I don't think they are planning to change the body design of the MBP so they have to fix the keyboard in the given space they allowed themselves which isn't much. CPU performance wise we've been stuck for a while (thanks intel), so the new 6 core cpus will certainly be welcomed in terms of performance. 32GB of RAM for those who need it as long as it's Low Power not to affect battery life. The Display's on the current models should have been 100% Adobe RGB, but I guess because Apple uses one display tier for all models it didn't happen.
 
While I agree that a lot of changes are in order on the MBP, regular specs bumps are necessary IMO. Why would you think they are waiting for Intel? Adequate chips are already available and everyone else has started using them. A bigger change is not an excuse to continue selling old chips for months after the new ones are released.
 
While I agree that a lot of changes are in order on the MBP, regular specs bumps are necessary IMO. Why would you think they are waiting for Intel? Adequate chips are already available and everyone else has started using them. A bigger change is not an excuse to continue selling old chips for months after the new ones are released.

Current Intel CPU's don't support 32GB LPDDR4 They are waiting for Cannon Lake.
 
Current Intel CPU's don't support 32GB LPDDR4 They are waiting for Cannon Lake.
The 8th gen chips are there, LPDDR4 or not they are better than the 7th gen chips and would be decent upgrades. Why not release MBPs/iMacs with them now and then another one when LPDDR4 is there?
 
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The 8th gen chips are there, LPDDR4 or not they are better than the 7th gen chips and would be decent upgrade. Why not release MBPs/iMacs with them now and then another one when LPDDR4 is there?

Because EVERYTHING else needs a upgrade too. Just sticking a new CPU without fixing keyboard, upgrading graphics, better display etc isn't enough. Going from Skylake to Kabylake was worthless except for those use work with 10bit video.
 
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Because EVERYTHING else needs a upgrade too. Just sticking a new CPU without fixing keyboard, upgrading graphics, better display etc isn't enough. Going from Skylake to Kabylake was worthless except for those use work with 10bit video.

It's just a shame that Dell, HP, etc. can do it, but not the most valuable company in the world. Maybe they need to spend more on Hardware engineers than guys who worked on tongue tracking for the animoji feature.
 
Based on how just about every BGA Coffee Lake Windows notebook released so far this year has struggled badly with thermals, and the expectation that Apple traditionally gets slightly upgraded versions of Intel processors, I’m actually ok with this. I’m sure Apple doesn’t want to deal with the same complaints every single Windows PC manufacturer has had to deal with so far regarding thermally throttling hexacores.

Give Apple engineers as much time as they need to get 6 cores done right in MBPs
 
I think if they just come out with a "3rd generation" improved keyboard, 4 cores in the 13" and 6 cores in the 15" that most people will be happy. I know I'll be buying a 4 core 13" as soon as they're available. I've wanted another "pocket rocket" ever since my 12" Powerbook G4 died many years ago.
 
Apple now has chance to make the late 2018 MBP or early 2019 model a better laptop

And you can equally say "Oh, it's good Apple won't release a new MBP in 2019 cause then they will have a better 2020 laptop".

2 years is more than enough time for a design upgrade. But since Apple's profits are only 10% from MBP sales, the amount of attention Apple pays to them is also around 10%. Check out the Mac Pro for example.
 
Welp, looks like you basically got your wish and Apple didn't have to break their somewhat-consistent yearly update cycle. Let's just hope the next spec bump brings Vega GPUs.
 
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When Apple came out with the 2017 MBP models they were almost identical to the 2016 Models with the exception of the CPU handling 10bit coding. There was no real updates. Apple now has chance to make the late 2018 MBP or early 2019 model a better laptop. I've made a small list of things that I think the laptop needs to remain competitive in the Pro Space.

1. 6 Core mobile CPU's
2. 32GB of LPDDR4
3. A real update to the 460 and 560 Radeon GPU which are identical.
4. 10 bit Display - 100% Adobe RGB
5. New Keyboard design in terms of durability
6. Maintain their lead in SSD performance in laptops perhaps reaching 3,500mb/s in read and writes.

I think the are waiting on Intel as always when it comes to CPUs. And perhaps the keyboard design is giving them an issue, as I don't think they are planning to change the body design of the MBP so they have to fix the keyboard in the given space they allowed themselves which isn't much. CPU performance wise we've been stuck for a while (thanks intel), so the new 6 core cpus will certainly be welcomed in terms of performance. 32GB of RAM for those who need it as long as it's Low Power not to affect battery life. The Display's on the current models should have been 100% Adobe RGB, but I guess because Apple uses one display tier for all models it didn't happen.
How did you predict this so damn accurately?
 
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When Apple came out with the 2017 MBP models they were almost identical to the 2016 Models with the exception of the CPU handling 10bit coding. There was no real updates. Apple now has chance to make the late 2018 MBP or early 2019 model a better laptop. I've made a small list of things that I think the laptop needs to remain competitive in the Pro Space.

1. 6 Core mobile CPU's
2. 32GB of LPDDR4
3. A real update to the 460 and 560 Radeon GPU which are identical.
4. 10 bit Display - 100% Adobe RGB
5. New Keyboard design in terms of durability
6. Maintain their lead in SSD performance in laptops perhaps reaching 3,500mb/s in read and writes.

I think the are waiting on Intel as always when it comes to CPUs. And perhaps the keyboard design is giving them an issue, as I don't think they are planning to change the body design of the MBP so they have to fix the keyboard in the given space they allowed themselves which isn't much. CPU performance wise we've been stuck for a while (thanks intel), so the new 6 core cpus will certainly be welcomed in terms of performance. 32GB of RAM for those who need it as long as it's Low Power not to affect battery life. The Display's on the current models should have been 100% Adobe RGB, but I guess because Apple uses one display tier for all models it didn't happen.

Be careful guys, SPOILER ALERT!
 
How did you predict this so damn accurately?

Because it was kind of obvious? The CPUs have been public knowledge since spring (anyone with minimal overview about intel's portfolio could have given you the model numbers) and it was clear that Apple was designing a third-gen keyboard. Also, faster SSDs were expected since we already saw the T2 chip in the iMac Pro.

In fact, it seems to me that OP was hoping for true next-gen system, with new generation CPUs and GPUs and LPDDR4 support. We got nothing of that. Instead we got a three year old CPU (optimised to the limits though) and a two years old GPU. No matter, its not like anyone else got anything better...
 
Because it was kind of obvious? The CPUs have been public knowledge since spring (anyone with minimal overview about intel's portfolio could have given you the model numbers) and it was clear that Apple was designing a third-gen keyboard. Also, faster SSDs were expected since we already saw the T2 chip in the iMac Pro.

In fact, it seems to me that OP was hoping for true next-gen system, with new generation CPUs and GPUs and LPDDR4 support. We got nothing of that. Instead we got a three year old CPU (optimised to the limits though) and a two years old GPU. No matter, its not like anyone else got anything better...
Yeah I ignore intel lmao.

I’m looking for an upgrade fir my PC so am only interested in Ryan’s so that’s all I read about and I totally ignore laptop CPUs
 
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