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No More IE for Mac

OW 4.1/4.2 or 4.5?

Originally posted by Doctor Q
I was shopping online today using OmniWeb (because the cookie manager comes in handy) and I came to another of those web pages that doesn't work right with some browsers. I switched to Internet Explorer and, as one might expect, it worked fine:
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Which version of Omniweb were you using? I'm currently using OW 4.5 (v484), and it seemed to work fine.
 
Re: OW 4.1/4.2 or 4.5?

Originally posted by edenwaith
Which version of Omniweb were you using? I'm currently using OW 4.5 (v484), and it seemed to work fine.
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Uh oh. You caught me using out of date software. I never upgraded from 4.2.1. Now I'm gonna get sent to bed without dinner.

Edit (15 minutes later): I wasn't so naughty after all. Version 4.2.1 is still the latest nonbeta version. Version 4.5 beta 1 is probably better as you seem to suggest (it's now based on Apple's WebCore and JavaScriptCore frameworks), but the Check for Updates... feature doesn't tell you about beta releases!
 
Re: Re: OW 4.1/4.2 or 4.5?

Originally posted by Doctor Q

Edit (15 minutes later): I wasn't so naughty after all. Version 4.2.1 is still the latest nonbeta version. Version 4.5 beta 1 is probably better as you seem to suggest (it's now based on Apple's WebCore and JavaScriptCore frameworks), but the Check for Updates... feature doesn't tell you about beta releases!
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Welcome to the world of OW 4.5! Hope you enjoy it. I've been using it since the first sneaky peak builds, and I have seen some great improvements in the past few weeks. OW 4.5 has definitely become my main browser. It looks like Safari and its open source proved to be a very beautiful thing for Omniweb. The standards support is tons, tons, tons better than 4.2 and earlier.

Safari is a good browser (the other browser which I contain in my dock), but I enjoy Omniweb's interface and features more than Safari.
 
Same here. I'm on 4.5 now, thanks to you, and I keep Safari around to keep in practice. But I still keep I.E. handy in case a site doesn't otherwise work. May those cases be few and far between.
 
Sorry if this has been posted, but everyone who has installed IE 5.2.3 please repair permissions NOW.

I've bever seen so many permissions incorrect, and it's not just me experiencing this.

Its absolutely amazing.

AppleMatt
 
Originally posted by AppleMatt
Sorry if this has been posted, but everyone who has installed IE 5.2.3 please repair permissions NOW.

I've bever seen so many permissions incorrect, and it's not just me experiencing this.

Its absolutely amazing.

AppleMatt
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yeah, there were people on versiontracker saying that too. I noticed it as well and so I repaired the permissions.
 
A lot of people seem to be speculating why MS have ceased development of IE for Mac. Being a windows user at present (plans to change), I was subjected to a rather aging IE. So i started looking around for news on IE updates. From what I've read IE as a stand alone product has been stopped because further enhancements/improvements to IE could not be done in the app itself but required OS changes (or so MS claim). As such MS seem to be working on a browser build-in to longhorn. It kind make sense that since there ceasing IE for Win32, also on Mac (since i believe they share a common code base somewhere along the lines). Because of this I don't see MS creating a new product for Mac OS X, in the near future.
 
Very true. M$ has ceased developing IE as a stand-alone product. Despite ongoing antitrust issues, they are simply integrating it into their OS and into other products (e.g., M$N 8 for Mac OS).

In their commentary about ceasing Mac development it was interesting to note that they lamented 'Apple can do more to integrate their browser with the OS than we ever could...'

Poor babies....bring on iWorks (or Oo_Org at this point...)
 
ive used macs since 1990. I only started using IE about 2 yrs ago.... took me all these years to start using IE, now their canning it. :confused: :mad:

Its actually not that bad a program.... under jaguar it worked pretty good. When I installed panther, thats when it started crashing all the time.

IE for mac was 10 times better than it windows counterpart.

I think that micro$oft is pissed cause apple made their own browser... so that is why they are canning it. Thats my opinion anyway.

:D
 
pbrennen said:
This will be great. Forced support of browsers superior to IE or loss of the Mac community are the choices here. I think sites will opt not to lose users on Macs.
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I wouldn't be so sure. Some web design firms I've worked at looked at the low market share and simply chose to ignore testing for Mac users at all.

But then again, those web design firms are out of business...so maybe that says something about karma and/or good business practice?

I could still see a lot of (web) developers basically saying "screw mac" because the percentage isn't enough to get their attention. But I'm hoping you're right and this will usher in a new era of browser wars. At the very least it would keep people in check. ;)
 
powermac said:
I wouldn't be so sure. Some web design firms I've worked at looked at the low market share and simply chose to ignore testing for Mac users at all.

But then again, those web design firms are out of business...so maybe that says something about karma and/or good business practice?

I could still see a lot of (web) developers basically saying "screw mac" because the percentage isn't enough to get their attention. But I'm hoping you're right and this will usher in a new era of browser wars. At the very least it would keep people in check. ;)
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Those web developers need to realize that "screwing mac" is very short-sighted. Better yet, they should all be forced to run their pages through at least 2 HTML/CSS validators and 1 accessibility validator (like Cynthia Says).
 
Holy cow

Web firms ignoring the Mac base? They do realize the dollars-per-capita difference on the Mac side, don't they? Oh yeah, out of business. Laziness will bite you in the ass on the internet, won't it?
 
I could never understand why banks tolerated on-line banking software that didn't work with IE for Mac, or now with Safari. But I keep hearing people say that their banking software isn't written to standards and they still have to use a PC or I.E. instead of Safari. Banks talk so much about customer service, so how can some of them ignore the web browsers of a small but significant % of their customers?
 
Doctor Q said:
I could never understand why banks tolerated on-line banking software that didn't work with IE for Mac, or now with Safari. But I keep hearing people say that their banking software isn't written to standards and they still have to use a PC or I.E. instead of Safari. Banks talk so much about customer service, so how can some of them ignore the web browsers of a small but significant % of their customers?
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Bank of America works fine with Safari for me. Has anyone had problems with them?
 
powermac said:
Bank of America works fine with Safari for me. Has anyone had problems with them?
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previously i had some rendering problems with Bank of America.
but they recently updated their online banking interface, and Safari works just fine with it.
 
No problems with the USBank website either. I've never had any problems with Safari accessing websites, except for those programmed not to let any browser but IE in. Then I just get Safari to spoof IE and then everything works fine. :D
 
stoid said:
No problems with the USBank website either. I've never had any problems with Safari accessing websites, except for those programmed not to let any browser but IE in. Then I just get Safari to spoof IE and then everything works fine. :D
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How do I get Safari to "spoof" IE? I constantly have problems with my bank bill pay website when using Safari.
 
Doctor Q said:
I could never understand why banks tolerated on-line banking software that didn't work with IE for Mac, or now with Safari. But I keep hearing people say that their banking software isn't written to standards and they still have to use a PC or I.E. instead of Safari. Banks talk so much about customer service, so how can some of them ignore the web browsers of a small but significant % of their customers?
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I'm currently using Quicken to do my banking. According to a recent phone call, at some time in the near future they plan to discontinue "Bill Pay.' I will still be able to download into Quicken. At that point I will have to use the Web. The positive point is that it will be free. So at that point I will be finding out about compatibility.
 
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