No more Mini Quads ever?

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by dogslobber, Nov 4, 2014.

  1. dogslobber macrumors 68030

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    If you review the new Broadwell-M chips then you'll notice the dearth of 4 core cpus. Indeed one thing that jumps out is that the 1.2ghz without TB so is that the future for the late 2015/early 2016 Mini? i.e. even LOWER base clock rate than the 2014 Mini and no 4 core ever again.

    Grab those 2012 quads while they're still hot!
     
  2. giggles, Nov 4, 2014
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    giggles macrumors 6502

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    Broadwell-Y (aka Core M) is just a slice of the Broadwell cake. That's what you're referring to.

    Broadwell-U that will be launched at CES in January won't include quads either.

    Broadwell-H will come in quadcore flavors. Dual and quads will be available on the same bga socket this time (unlike on Haswell = that's why no quads in Mini 2014).

    So

    if next mini uses broadwell Y = no quads and new hockey puck extremely small (or extremely thin) format

    if next mini uses broadwell U = same old format, no quads

    if next mini uses broadwell H = same old format, both dual and quads a possibility (vs. impossible with haswell without designing two different motherboards)

    if next mini skips broadwell and aim directly for skylake in late 2015 or Easter 2016 = same old format, quad cores, ddr4, Thunderbolt3 ports, 5K tb-display ready


    Hot as in "you can fry eggs on them" being powered by 45W tech designed inside intel labs like back in last decade.
     
  3. corvus32 macrumors 6502a

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    Having them run hot was Apple's decision.
     
  4. cinealta macrumors 6502

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    There will be mobile quad-core Broadwell and Skylake CPUs. Whether Apple will use them is a different consideration.
     
  5. YanniDepp macrumors 6502

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    The next version of the mini will be single-core, and it'll come with a 64GB SSD soldered to the motherboard. But don't worry, you'll be able to upgrade to a 256GB SSD for $450.

    Apple should realise that if they release a newer model of something, and the value of the older model actually increases (e.g. 2012 Mac mini, Apple TV 2), they've made a mistake.

    Then again, they've got more money than the US government, so I don't think they really care.
     
  6. iZac macrumors 68000

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    seems quad core minis are the new 12" Powerbooks, or 17" Macbook Pros, or G4 cubes, or Cheese grater Mac Pros.

    What others am I missing?
     
  7. johngwheeler macrumors 6502

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    That's right - it's a (good) design decision to use the aluminium case as a heat sink. Instead of keeping the thermal energy inside the case and having to use a more powerful (and noisy) fan to expel the hot air, there use the case to do some of the work. As you don't often touch a desktop computer, this is a good design choice.

    Laptops are a different matter - my 2007 MBP gets really hot above the function keys. I remember suffering sweaty hands in summer using that laptop, so I used to carry a bluetooth keyboard (or a fan!) with me.
     
  8. Occamsrazr macrumors 6502

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    Yes, buy two year old hardware everyone. This makes perfect sense.
     
  9. scottsjack macrumors 68000

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    Worked for me. I've got a 2.3 and a 2.6!
     
  10. cinealta macrumors 6502

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    The Mini is going the way of a network appliance. Likely future editions will be hockey puck size, fully sealed, non-upgradeable, low power consumption and only meant to get users to/from iCloud with little or no local processing. The product lineup is a funnel meant to feed buyers into the next higher level (iMac, Mac Pro etc).
     
  11. Occamsrazr macrumors 6502

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    sounds good. DIY people have no place in the apple eco-system.
     
  12. magbarn macrumors 68000

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    What's it to you? People who like sealed systems already have the rMBP/MBA/imac 21 to drool over. Are you Schiller's or Cook's secretary?
     

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