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No New Apple Television Products Coming in 2012 as Content Negotiations Stall Once Again

Down with Cable providers!!

I hate Time Warner.
Can anybody say they like their cable provider? Apple my suggestion, as with several others here, is to strike your deals with the networks, etc and become your own provider effectively taking the awful cable companies out of the picture.
I've been crossing my fingers for a sort of iTunes for television delivered content through an Apple product since I bought my ATV2. Please get this done, you are prime to revolutionize the tv/cable industries. It's what's next. Do what it takes... get a Medium to channel in Steve if you have to!
 
Ahah - no?

What happened to the ahah! moment Steve had that he reported to Isaacson before he died. The one where he claimed to have "cracked" the Apple TV problem?
 
So 1 options is for Apple to do the Netflix thing.

Buy all the content just like a cable provider/Dish network.

Pay them $5/network package, pay them 100% the same as cable for say $60, sell it to the consumer for $80, just like we pay now.

No ala carte, no nothing.

Make it all over the internet like Netflix. use the Apple TV. DVR = Streaming, save the shows in the cloud for on demand viewing.

networks are happy as they get the same $ like a cable company.
Dont control the commercials., leave their revenue model alone.

Then once you have market share, and software control, you start slowly tweaking in the direction you want to go. Keep the revenue sharing with the networks.

The problem is that 12 hours/day at HD will blow past your 250 gig cap that broadband providerse give. Imagine 4 TV's all streaming HD....
 
Apple partners up with Pixar/Dreamworks and spins off a new studio that produces a few AppleTv only channels.

Reasonable prices $10-15/month in a Netflix monthly, all you can eat type of billing cycle.

a. A HBO/AMC like channel with original dramas and adult aged comedies
b. a kids channel with 3 exclusive serial animated series. Pick up a few cheap filler programs for the teenagers
c. Buy into the EPL or La Liga or other emerging sports in the US distribution rights.
d. keep MLB, NHL, NBA subscriptions, work out the blackouts with the respective leagues.
e. Launch a news service or buy a small established one ie CurrentTV
f. Have a heavy tech-science channel. Take over were Discovery Channel dropped the ball

Keep launching small amounts of exclusive content but make sure it is very well produced and then grab a big sports contract when it becomes available.
 
"with cable companies wanting to have control over the software"

...which results in the likes of what I've seen with pretty much every cable system's DVR's - out-dated and poor software which gets in the way of maximizing value from the exorbitant charges most people pay for their cable bill.

My uncle has Comcast, and when I visited recently I was shocked to see what looked like the same crappy software from 10 years ago running on his updated DVR box - and it seemed slow, ugly, and frustrating even back then (I was a Directv TIVO user at the time).

I can't believe people pay such high fees and put up with this crap! If cable companies aren't willing to move ahead to even the 21st century circa 2001 with a usable program guide and DVR interface, why are they allowed to maintain such an inefficient monopoly?

The cable companies are definitely stifling innovation and economic growth in this country, and hopefully it's just a matter of time before they go the way of the dinosaur.
 
I agree with all the handbrake posts. I have a 3TB HD full of movies and TV shows I've ripped and shared with friends. Like Netflix, I can stream everything on my iPhone, iPad, and Apple TV through Wifi and 4G with useful streaming apps found in the app store.

To sum all of this up... I have my own streaming service only catered to me. I stream the new releases rather than wait till Netflix offers them.
 
Strike one apple! Guess the predictions were true about coasting for a few years before starting to crumble. Didn't think it would start this soon. Only way apple is going to get there foot in the door is get time warner on board, pay whatever the fee is, instead of demanding there own terms, for one year to prove it could work, then renegotiate IF apple can make it work.
Subscription base like the sports on apple tv now could work. A CBS, NBC, CBS tab to click on may do the trick.
Apple may be the 100 pound gorilla but the networks are the 1000 pound elephant. Apple needs to play ball on the networks field.
I for one would never buy a tv built by apple. The ATV is fine like it is. Just add more content. I'll choose what tv to plug it into. If apple can't get more content and someone else does, then I'll move on.
I'll see strike 2 when apple kills off the Mac pro to focus on iToys.
 
Ripping

Super, bedifferent, that is a really helpful list of links and tips (post #177). Have been considering RipIt, so I'll jump on that, and read through the other info you linked to.
Thank you!
 
The Captain said:
Your entire comment was really great.
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Thanks, but, with respect...

I just wanted to highlight...fanboys...fanboys...antisocial fanboys...
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...no thanks. IMO use of the word 'fanboys' is juvenile and undermines any post on any topic. I hate it and it would be hypocritical of me to overlook it just because you're agreeing with me.
 
I am one of the few people without a cable TV subscription and am happy without it. Netflix and Hulu (free) are more than enough to occupy my time.
 
mw360 said:
Thanks, but, with respect...



...no thanks. IMO use of the word 'fanboys' is juvenile and undermines any post on any topic. I hate it and it would be hypocritical of me to overlook it just because you're agreeing with me.
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Sorry, but I see a problem with people who seem to have a religious belief that Apple will always make things better, by the nature of it just being Apple. There have been a few here who have seemed to read and made an honest attempt understand the nature of television production, how shows come to air, and who are the right holders and have changed or amended their opinions based on new understanding. Then there are those that just scream they hate any company that's not apple and have no desire to hear anything that may show a move by Apple to be not in the companies or their best interest. I call those people "fanboys" since my preferred word of ass-hat is slightly more offensive.
 
Please note, that personal insults are against the TOS of the forums. Please refrain from using them. Also the tension seems a bit high here, can't we all just take a step back and relax.
 
interbear said:
Apple TV in it's current form works for me in terms of access to iTunes content and Netflix on the big screen, plus mirroring.

More content provision apps would make it a far stronger offering though - for example I'd love to see the Apple TV user experience applied to BBC iPlayer, LoveFilm etc....I'm in the UK.....

At the moment, from a UK user perspective, the content provision / apps are pretty light and could do with opening up a bit to compete better with other non Apple devices.
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I bought it for mirroring, was disappointed in the lag (fine for video/pics).
Netflix is good, except it won't auto play the next episodes like PS3...which makes trying to fall asleep to shorter TV shows obnoxious.
Youtube is solid. The keyboard is stupid for not cycling around.

Honestly, I'm surprised they didn't incorporate a touch wheel into the remote (iPod Classic). Fast forwarding would be way more fun.

3 click fast forwarding should have died with my Tivo in 2006.
 
As many have said here, customers just want choices at a semi-reasonable price. I say semi-reasonable because anyone who has read the thousands of threads about this topic have seen the amount of posters that pay a very high total per months in Netflix, Hulu, etc...combined in order to see what they want. With people wanting to save money these days, many have pulled back, including me.

I am still rather appalled at the amount of movies or TV shows that I can't find on any online store.

If iTunes has it, I buy/rent it. If Amazon Instant Video has it, I buy/rent it. If Netflix has it, I watch it. If Hulu has it, I usually buy a month or so and watch the things that interest me for that month on Hulu. If Vudu has it, I buy/rent it.

But if nobody has it? So, I just torrent the movie. It really is that simple. Your loss, movie companies. You are losing out on many, many millions of dollars in profits by holding out for ridiculous amounts of money.

The music industry was scared to death about people not using iTunes at first because of torrent issues and iTunes exploded. Yes, I know the movie industry is different but many of the same scare tactics exist.

It took years and years for the move industry to simple get their garbage online to start with....
 
DiamondMac said:
As many have said here, customers just want choices at a semi-reasonable price. I say semi-reasonable because anyone who has read the thousands of threads about this topic have seen the amount of posters that pay a very high total per months in Netflix, Hulu, etc...combined in order to see what they want. With people wanting to save money these days, many have pulled back, including me.

I am still rather appalled at the amount of movies or TV shows that I can't find on any online store.

If iTunes has it, I buy/rent it. If Amazon Instant Video has it, I buy/rent it. If Netflix has it, I watch it. If Hulu has it, I usually buy a month or so and watch the things that interest me for that month on Hulu. If Vudu has it, I buy/rent it.

But if nobody has it? So, I just torrent the movie. It really is that simple. Your loss, movie companies. You are losing out on many, many millions of dollars in profits by holding out for ridiculous amounts of money.

The music industry was scared to death about people not using iTunes at first because of torrent issues and iTunes exploded. Yes, I know the movie industry is different but many of the same scare tactics exist.

It took years and years for the move industry to simple get their garbage online to start with....
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Exactly, Disney's "Vault" bullshart makes me wish I could deliver burned DVDs of every piece of their content to every child in America.
If your content is unavailable, F)(@$ you!

Look at South Park Studios: TV-like obnoxious commercials...but it's all there!

I don't mind $1 per episode either, seems fair.
But when it's double the cost for HD (and 22 22min episodes/season)...just die already, phallic wads.

3 seasons of a show like that, and it would be cheaper to buy a blu-ray player/blu-ray seasons and rip them all. And for inconveniencing me so much, I'll be tempted to share it with everyone. Idiots.

I'm glad Netflix resists the studio strong-arm to keep it $8 (Starz wanted to be part of a premium package...for the one good movie they get per month)
Studios don't realize that their old TV series' have a shelf life. We're the last generation that's going to care about any of our childhood shows and 90s family drama.
 
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