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There will be new models every year to year and a half. If they don't they won't stay competitive and there won't be an apple watch 2.

Processor, memory and battery will all get better in time. Thinner / gps, so much room to improve.

(With native apps that 8g won't last long)

2 years is most likely wishful thinking. I'll bet a year and a half.

If they don't stay current they won't be relevant. iPod, iPhone and iPad are all annual or less for next gen. Thinking it will be longer is wishful thinking.
 
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I think the hardware could be good for 3 years. I don't think a watch camera for FaceTime or taking photos is practical given the orientation of the watch on one's wrist.

The watch is really one example of a device that actually should NOT be made thinner. The high-end watch market is full of over-sized watches with chronographs and other complications, both in diameter and thickness. It's what the majority of consumers want.

I am hoping that Apple will focus exclusively on developing the WatchOS over the next couple of years. Lots of room for improvement there.
 
I think anyone who thinks that there won't be a new model every year is kidding themselves.

Apple know that a certain percentage of buyers are holding off waiting on revision 2. Revision 2 will have small benefits over Rev 1.

Possible differences;
Memory increases, due to native apps on watch now.
GPS - probably the main feature over Rev 1.
better water resistance

Who knows.

One things for sure, Apple want to sell more and more each year, just in the same way they sell iPads, & iPhones.

Would love them to do an upgrade path for existing owners - but highly unlikely, they've never done that type of thing before.
 
There will be new models every year to year and a half. If they don't they won't stay competitive and there won't be an apple watch 2.

Processor, memory and battery will all get better in time. Thinner / gps, so much room to improve.

(With native apps that 8g won't last long)

2 years is most likely wishful thinking. I'll bet a year and a half.

If they don't stay current they won't be relevant. iPod, iPhone and iPad are all annual or less for next gen. Thinking it will be longer is wishful thinking.

I think you're right. This is a new product line where they are competing with Samsung. They won't want to be left behind, and they will be learning lessons from customers real life usage.

I think some of the currently promoted functions are gimmicky (eg sending heartbeats, or hand drawn images to other watches), but Apple will nail this product category soon.

Improved communication with the paired iphone will come soon, as will more native apps. Version 2 will be much better and (like you) I think it will come out in 12 to 18 months.

After that I can see a two year cycle, but only once the product is established and works to Apple's satisfaction.

There may well be upgrade deals for edition buyers, but that's a category of product where nobody really knows what will happen.
 
The battery is good to hold its charge approx. 80% for 1,000 charges, 2.73972602739726 Years :D
next watch Update Summer 2016, Spring 2017
Its listed on the apple website

Your battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity at 1000 complete charge cycles. The one-year warranty (for Apple Watch and Apple Watch Sport) and two-year warranty (for Apple Watch Edition) include service coverage for a defective battery. If it is out of warranty, Apple offers a battery service. Prices and terms may vary.
http://www.apple.com/batteries/service-and-recycling/
 
And those are 1000 100% cycles, meaning actual life span should be longer based on the battery consumption people are reporting for real-world usage.
 
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As someone who has bought every iPhone iteration Apple has produced, it's not far-fetched to believe that Apple will introduce a better, newer, souped up watch every year or every other year.

Haven't we all caught on to the pattern? They introduce a radically new product, but despite its newness and form factor, it's still missing key features that would make it completely perfect and amazing.

The 6 plus is big, but the 6 plus S will be big and have a forward facing flash. Just enough upgrades/improvements to make us buy the newest and latest product.

The next Apple watch will either have a camera or GPS -- OR BOTH.
 
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I only bought the sport model so I'm not particularly bothered if they release a new watch next year but that would be an insult to those who bought an edition watch or even those who bought some of the more expensive watch models.
 
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I only bought the sport model so I'm not particularly bothered if they release a new watch next year but that would be an insult to those who bought an edition watch or even those who bought some of the more expensive watch models.

Fully agree with this comment, it would certainly be a big massive slap in the face for the Edition wearers.....but, if they can afford to buy such a product then upgrading isn't going to be an issue IMO
 
Fully agree with this comment, it would certainly be a big massive slap in the face for the Edition wearers.....but, if they can afford to buy such a product then upgrading isn't going to be an issue IMO

Why is it a slap in the face lol? I have a friend who spent like $700 on his and says exactly the same thing. People that spend more than what it costs for the sport are paying for FASHION, not technology. If you are interested in the technology of the device than get a sport like I did and wait for what comes out next year. If you are dumb enough to pay $700-$1000 for this first gen watch, especially for one missing KEY features, you kind of deserve that "slap in the face."
 
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As someone who has bought every iPhone iteration Apple has produced, it's not far-fetched to believe that Apple will introduce a better, newer, souped up watch every year or every other year.

Haven't we all caught on to the pattern? They introduce a radically new product, but despite its newness and form factor, it's still missing key features that would make it completely perfect and amazing.

The 6 plus is big, but the 6 plus S will be big and have a forward facing flash. Just enough upgrades/improvements to make us buy the newest and latest product.

The next Apple watch will either have a camera or GPS -- OR BOTH.

You may be right. The only relevant comparable products we can look at here, are the ipad, and maybe the macbook air.

The ipad was a new product category in 2010. The ipad 2 came out 11 months later. It was a great improvement (as 2nd generation devices usually are).

But the MacBook Air which was a revolutionary development in laptop thinness in 2008, didn't change until late 2010.

Plus, the ipad was essentially an enlarged iphone. The MacBook Air an ultra-thin version of a macbook. These were adjustments to products they already had a great deal of experience with.

Apple watch is different. It's a whole new departure, and in a whole new market. I think new versions will be slower to appear, until Apple figure out the product and how to make it work (like they did with the MBA).
 
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True, but the iPhone is not the only product they make. :)

iPods have not been updated now since 2013. Neither has the Apple TV.

But these are pretty niche low volume products these days. I'll bet there is a new Apple Watch at least announced within the year. I only hope it will work with current bands (of which I now have a few).
 
If they announce in the next 2 years will they only update the technology? Maybe the 5 years is fashion design change. The watch is also supposed to be a fashion accessory. If they update will it be a drastically different design so you can have options on which works best for you that day? We will all have more than one apple watch in our collection then.
 
Yes which way will apple go, only 1 watch per consumer
or more than 1??
i think only 1, and make some cash with the extra bands etc, i think we'll see some new/different bands in 2015

I think new bands will comet whenever, I don't think they need to be tied to a major event or the gen 2 watch. I doubt we'll see new ones for 4-6 months since they can't keep up with just the watches as it is.
 
Yes which way will apple go, only 1 watch per consumer
or more than 1??
i think only 1, and make some cash with the extra bands etc, i think we'll see some new/different bands in 2015

If they go with more than one watch per consumer they will need to make it easier to pair 2 or more watches with one iPhone.
 
Why is it a slap in the face lol? I have a friend who spent like $700 on his and says exactly the same thing. People that spend more than what it costs for the sport are paying for FASHION, not technology. If you are interested in the technology of the device than get a sport like I did and wait for what comes out next year. If you are dumb enough to pay $700-$1000 for this first gen watch, especially for one missing KEY features, you kind of deserve that "slap in the face."

Dumb enough to pay 700 to 1000? Way to judge others. I bought the SS because I'm clumsy and constantly smacking my watches against the wall as I walk. I didn't want to pay 400 for something and then scratch it to heck within a week. Also, if the SS scratches, I can eventually polish the scratches out. I can't do that with aluminum. All that said, I don't think the people that bought the AWS are dumb. Dumb is buying something you can't afford. If you can afford it, it's not dumb.

As for releasing a new version in a year being a slap in the face? Nope. New iPhones are released every year and generally the new phone has a new feature that people want. If you can afford to buy a new phone every year, you do it. If not, you wait. I probably won't be getting an AW2, just like I probably won't be getting another iPhone this fall. Maybe I will feel ready to buy the watch again with the third version, but I can't see myself dropping 600+ on a watch every year especially when the first version does what I need it to. Anything else is just gravy, which I'll eventually get to enjoy when I finally upgrade.
 
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I think there will be a new model every year. With the announcement that Samsung (And other android-based) watches becoming compatible with iPhones, AND the fact that the reviews for the Apple Watch are pretty mixed with lots of high-profile journalists writing up reasons they're skipping this generation, Apple would be foolish to stick to the limited version they have now. According to some reports I've read, Apple was never happy with the battery life and realizes that as of now, most of the components in the watch are made from technology designed for cell phones. In the near-future, they're going to have to start radically re-designing components so that instead of bastardized phone parts, they are truly designed FOR the watch's form factor.

I do find what I'm hearing from Apple Store employees confusing. A few of them separately told me to think of the Watch as more of an Apple TV-like device that won't be updated every year. When I returned my watch (after having it for a week, I liked it, but didn't fall in love with it and feel I'll be better served by waiting to see what the future brings in this product category), the employee said "Well, they're telling us to tell customers that this won't necessarily be updated every year like the iPhone, but more likely every 2-3 years, but of course also don't count on that because nobody knows."
 
I do find what I'm hearing from Apple Store employees confusing. A few of them separately told me to think of the Watch as more of an Apple TV-like device that won't be updated every year. When I returned my watch (after having it for a week, I liked it, but didn't fall in love with it and feel I'll be better served by waiting to see what the future brings in this product category), the employee said "Well, they're telling us to tell customers that this won't necessarily be updated every year like the iPhone, but more likely every 2-3 years, but of course also don't count on that because nobody knows."
The Apple TV is a good analogy and what I've thought all along. The watch is mostly a software driven device not that dependent on its own hardware. Of course an Apple TV doesn't have its own battery and as battery technology advances then you'll probably see new watch versions that can incorporate it. Every 2-3 years or longer makes the most sense to me.
 
I think there will be a new model every year. With the announcement that Samsung (And other android-based) watches becoming compatible with iPhones, AND the fact that the reviews for the Apple Watch are pretty mixed with lots of high-profile journalists writing up reasons they're skipping this generation, Apple would be foolish to stick to the limited version they have now. According to some reports I've read, Apple was never happy with the battery life and realizes that as of now, most of the components in the watch are made from technology designed for cell phones. In the near-future, they're going to have to start radically re-designing components so that instead of bastardized phone parts, they are truly designed FOR the watch's form factor.

I don't see much mix in the reviews I've read - they've all been pretty positive about the watch itself, but more neutral about what it can do for users. Balance that against the various sources (including threads here) which are showing a distinct bias towards approval from actual users and I think that Apple can consider their first foray into the smartwatch market a pretty good success. Not resounding, but then there isn't a teaming hoard of people who are a natural fit for what a smartwatch can (and can't) do - which is why a number of journalists aren't themselves more positive.

As far as components and battery life are concerned, Apple have used technology that is currently available, and neither battery life nor computing components in the watch will be improved until technology moves forward. When it does, that may give us faster processors and more memory, but I doubt battery life will take a sudden leap until battery chemistry changes allow for greater capacities.

As such, I see the greatest changes in the Apple watch being software, not hardware, based for some time.

I do find what I'm hearing from Apple Store employees confusing. A few of them separately told me to think of the Watch as more of an Apple TV-like device that won't be updated every year. When I returned my watch (after having it for a week, I liked it, but didn't fall in love with it and feel I'll be better served by waiting to see what the future brings in this product category), the employee said "Well, they're telling us to tell customers that this won't necessarily be updated every year like the iPhone, but more likely every 2-3 years, but of course also don't count on that because nobody knows."

This is simple: No one in an Apple store has a clue, or any actual information, about the future of any Apple product. Apple do not tell retail staff what their plans are - indeed, only essential managers and engineering teams will have any clue, and even then, only about the aspects of any specific product they are working on. You can demonstrate this for yourself with a simple test - when you are next told something of that sort by a member of staff, find the store manager and ask the employee to repeat in front of the manager what they have told you. They won't, because if by some chance they did know, they would have had to sign a non-disclosure agreement forbidding them to repeat what they knew to anyone else.
 
...This is simple: No one in an Apple store has a clue, or any actual information, about the future of any Apple product. Apple do not tell retail staff what their plans are - indeed, only essential managers and engineering teams will have any clue, and even then, only about the aspects of any specific product they are working on. You can demonstrate this for yourself with a simple test - when you are next told something of that sort by a member of staff, find the store manager and ask the employee to repeat in front of the manager what they have told you. They won't, because if by some chance they did know, they would have had to sign a non-disclosure agreement forbidding them to repeat what they knew to anyone else.

Oh, I know. I do find it interesting that more than one person here has now reported hearing the "They're telling us to tell customers that the watch probably won't be updated every year, but then again don't count on that because anything can happen..." Are a bunch of employees lying about having been told to say this?
 
Oh, I know. I do find it interesting that more than one person here has now reported hearing the "They're telling us to tell customers that the watch probably won't be updated every year, but then again don't count on that because anything can happen..." Are a bunch of employees lying about having been told to say this?

Lying isn't exactly how I'd describe it, but they are not repeating something they have been told by corporate. If Apple wanted potential customers to know this kind of thing, they wouldn't rely on retail employees to pass it along, it would be in circulation via one of their authorized leak sources. If store staff had been told this, they would all be passing it on and everybody would be talking about it, but it's just not how Apple does business.
 
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I'm sure Apple corporate has an outline that they will follow as hardware and software advances. They are not going to commit to anything. After committing to Spring of 2015 then hitting snags causing a botched incomplete release, they have learned their lesson.

They may be having the retail say this because there isn't a clear time for the next step until they are almost guaranteed they can deliver. There may not be any leaks until it is almost time to deliver. Because of this we will see advancement, just when?

The second reason could be they want to sell more of this model. If people know when the new one is coming they will stop buying.

As a watch guy I hope they make a different style in the next major release. More than just band options.
 
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