No new MacBook Pro Leaks?

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by sakabaro, Oct 21, 2016.

  1. sakabaro macrumors regular

    Feb 24, 2015
    I am a bit concern that the only true leak for the MacBook Pro was the picture of it which showed an empty hole for the magic function keys.

    I am worried that the production and distribution chains are far from ready (so no leaks because nothing to show) and we are gonna to have to wait a couple more months before seeing anything in the stores.

    Am I the only one?
    --- Post Merged, Oct 21, 2016 ---
    In comparison, a month before the iphone 7 event, we had countless of pictures, both from the final product and several hardware components plus the full final specs pages...
  2. EnesM macrumors 6502


    May 7, 2015
    Mac hardware leaks less in general. But if you are right, for me that's good news , delay might mean Kaby Lake.
  3. keysofanxiety macrumors G3


    Nov 23, 2011
    Timmy's really doubled down on this one.

    No leaked benchmarks. No more leaked photos. No leaked packaging with the specs on. No leaked hints on Apple's website.

    There's going to be a MacBook Pro update next week, absolutely no doubt. But the sheer secrecy makes me think it's going to be something properly special.

    My money's on ditching Intel.
  4. sakabaro thread starter macrumors regular

    Feb 24, 2015
    Let's hope. I feel we are jumping from disappointment to disappointment regarding macs so I wouldn't put my hopes too high either.

    The theory of them just releasing something average in a long time might be saddest but more realistic.
  5. AceFernalld macrumors 68000


    Mar 3, 2008
    The 'hello again' slogan kind of indicates a massive change, as well. The reintroduction of the Mac, with custom designed processors, would make sense and be awesome.

    This would also justify the fact that they're having an event. Because honestly, for just new MacBook Pros and updated specs across their computers, they could have put out a press release and Introduction/Design videos.

    I'm really excited.
  6. catportal macrumors regular


    Aug 11, 2016
    You might as well just send me your money in that case.
    Macbook pro with ARM processor = $0.00 in sales.
  7. sakabaro thread starter macrumors regular

    Feb 24, 2015
    If it's fully compatible with the current OS + better performance + no heat, why not?
  8. wbrat macrumors regular

    Sep 18, 2014
    Maybe they are planning to produce it in the US, as in case of Mac Pros? This would explain no leaks...
  9. ssong macrumors 6502a


    May 3, 2015
    London, UK
    Just out of curiosity (since I find that idea interesting too) would it be compatible with most apps out there? I thought most apps are optimised to make the most of Intel chipsets.
  10. catportal macrumors regular


    Aug 11, 2016
    Because you can't break laws of physics? You do realize Intel uses much more efficient process technology, the heat to performance ratio is unmatched. Intel microarchitecture is leaps and bounds ahead of where ARM ISA or Apples implementation of ARM is.

    The only way to make it "fully compatible" is if they virtualized x86/AMD64 on ARM which would have terrible performance causing the Macbook Pro to be Macbook Pos.
  11. YoYoMa macrumors 6502

    Aug 3, 2006
    A whole host of reports came out showing that the iPhone 7 is faster than Mac Pro at single core tasks I thought. Get a few of those chips in a MBP and that'd be fantastic.

    Also, aren't all apps getting submitted to the app store compatible with both Intel and ARM?

    I really hope they switch. Very annoyed by the constantly delayed Intel 3% improvements
  12. meme1255 macrumors 6502a

    Jul 15, 2012
    Czech Republic
    Benchmark is *a little bit* different than real usage. :)
  13. PhiLLoW macrumors 6502

    May 31, 2014
    No, that won't work. Only option would be to run the x86-64 apps in some kind of emulator on ARM and that would decrease the performance a lot.
  14. TechZeke macrumors 68020


    Jul 29, 2012
    Rialto, CA
    If anything, I'd say Tim Cook is calling your "ARM based" Mac the iPad Pro.

    Apple's ARM chips are an accomplishment no doubt, but ARM on Mac would be a surefire way to get me to jump ship, fast. I'd rather see them switch to AMD Zen before ARM.
  15. fox10078 macrumors 6502


    Nov 6, 2009
    I'd be gone the second they announced it. Its such a stupid useless thing to do, i have no idea why anyone wants it in the first place.
  16. Nermal Moderator


    Staff Member

    Dec 7, 2002
    New Zealand
    Bear in mind that Windows 10 is a supported OS. 99% of Windows apps are not ARM-compatible.
  17. YoYoMa macrumors 6502

    Aug 3, 2006
    Because Apple is moving way faster than Intel when it comes to processor improvements, and the processors would be dramatically cheaper. Is there a site that truly compares the performance of the two right now?
  18. fs454 macrumors 68000

    Dec 7, 2007
    Los Angeles / Boston
    It's not going to be solely ARM powered. Think A10 CPU in an always-on state like the iPhone, handling light tasks and browsing instantly while sipping the massive battery. The A10 controls the system-level hardware and wakes the usual x64 CPU and GPU when an app is opened that calls for it.

    This would allow for some insane battery life doing light tasks, and a seamless hardware experience and transition to the Intel hardware in there when needed. I haven't heard this speculated anywhere, but I don't see why this wouldn't be the route they'd go. The volume production for Mac notebooks is small enough that it wouldn't be an out-of-this-world expectation for them to slap an A10 in all the MBPs.

    iOS is a near complete fork of what underlies OS X. With Apple in control of the hardware and software, a combination ARM/x64 version of OS X that can seamlessly swap would be so Apple and solve a lot of problems - while gaining what presumably would be 24+ hour battery life if you're doing tasks on the A10.
  19. jerryk, Oct 21, 2016
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2016

    jerryk macrumors 68040

    Nov 3, 2011
    SF Bay Area
    Agreed. A lot of people have some windows app they need to run for their business. Parallels is slow without having to do CPU emulation. And forget bootcamp.
  20. boast macrumors 65816


    Nov 12, 2007
    Phoenix, USA
    If Apple can make an ARM processor faster than the i7-6770HQ, it would shock the world. 2x the single core and 6x the multicore A10 power.
  21. Xerotech macrumors 6502

    Jul 22, 2011
    I hope they keep the intel processor for bootcamp. It's the best of both worlds from a business use aspect and for universities too.
  22. YoYoMa macrumors 6502

    Aug 3, 2006
    Doesn't seem too hard right? Up the power draw from the phone a bit and throw in two of em. Done and done. I have no idea of course - just hoping. :)
  23. thadoggfather macrumors G3


    Oct 1, 2007
    I hope you guys get a full DCI-P3 screen!

    that'd be sick
  24. Phil A. Moderator

    Phil A.

    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2006
    Shropshire, UK
    Bear in mind that a lot of the most important apps for businesses and professionals (e.g. Microsoft Office and all the Adobe apps ) don't get delivered through the App Store and also the fact that x86 compatibility is needed for boot camp and fusion/parallels.

    If they did do this they would lose a lot of sales IMO and would relegate the Mac line to being little more than iPads with built in keyboards.
  25. flyinmac macrumors 68040


    Sep 2, 2006
    United States
    That's the same interpretation I posted in another thread previously.

    The hello again slogan seems to imply a return from somewhere. Like we went there and now we're coming back.

    Would be interesting if they returned to the PowerPC architecture.

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