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There are lots of android phones out ranging from cheap to high end. I have a feeling those who buy the low end android are low on cash and tend to not want to pay for apps. Android also makes it alot easier to pirate apps

People who have iOS devices usually are customer with more income and used to paying stuff in the apple ecosystem. I use pirated jailbreak apps but I still end up paying for the app because I liked it so much and support the developers. Most pirated apps i try tend to go unused because it wasn't too great. The ones I do love i support the developers.
 
Damn apple made 1 billion of other peoples work

...and your point is? who developed the platform to launch all those developers apps? how were their efforts doing for them prior to the App Store ? so what credit is Apple being given for helping those developers stay employed and making money?
 
Because many Android people would flash ROM, rooting and just hacking to get a free/pirated copy of Android apps.

Sure iPhone can be jailbroken too and use pirated apps, but Android users seem more stingy. Yeah, some of free apps actually are adware too, so it's normal if Android market has more free apps, but I dont want anything to have ad, that would be ugly. I'd pay but please, no ads.

I'm not saying all, but most, or at least many Android users are just too stingy about paying for apps, they want them all free, either they're too poor or because they feel already bought the handset, so they think it's a must to have the apps free as a complimentary.

Now this is just stupid. Too poor? Are you saying those who have iPhones have more money? How lame is that statement? :rolleyes:

Heres a fact that could be a huge factor. You have to be jailbroken to get free Apps and MANY are unwilling to jailbreak their iphone.

You dont need to root your Android to get free Apps. If it is a good App, ill pay for it and i can get a refund if i dont like it.

You cant get a refund from Apps in iTunes.
 
Damn apple made 1 billion of other peoples work


Yeah, Apple is so ****ed up for providing developers with a market of a hundred million or so people, a store to sell their wares, handling bandwidth for their sales and processing payments. :rolleyes:
 
...and your point is? who developed the platform to launch all those developers apps? how were their efforts doing for them prior to the App Store ? so what credit is Apple being given for helping those developers stay employed and making money?

& I'll add that it's a store. Just like any other store that buys a product & makes a profit. Are target & best buy & wal-mart not the same thing only in physical form. Why is it so difficult for people to understand the app store is a store, like any other store.
 
Everyone knows Piracy exists on any platform and of course it exists on Android, but there are also plenty of ways to inhibit piracy. Also, many users don't even know they can download an .apk and install it. Technical users, sure, but definitely not everyone.

As far as profits go... of course App Store is the better seller! Everyone knows this and that's why most developers release there first. I think this does stem from the fact that everything Google is expected to be free (ad supported) while people expect to pay for things Apple related. Also, my theory only, it could have to do with the fact that many of the widely distributed android phones where Free or $50 and not nearly the "Premium" phone like the iPhone is or like some of the higher end Android phones. Users getting free phones or cheap phones are also not likely to pay as much for apps. Until recently there was not a bottom tier for hardware for the iPhone. Barrier to enter was much higher and I think it's safe to assume everyone with an iPhone had some kind of disposable income.

And now my personal experiences. :)

I have purchased far more software on my Android phone than I ever did with my iPhone. I realize this may be abnormal... but I feel more sympathy towards Android devs. I like how easy it is to get a hold of them via email and get quick turnarounds for bug fixes. The second a dev fixes a bug at my request I upgrade to a full, paid version of their app. I never had those experiences with iOS. Maybe due to the vetting process putting out rapid updates to fix any reported issue makes it not worth while... I don't know.
 
iPhones are used as mobile computing devices. Most Android phones are predominately just used as cell phones.

Which is weird, because you might think Android owners are too cheap or poor to buy apps, but that is not the case at all, because clearly they are overpaying for just a cell phone.
 
iPhones are used as mobile computing devices. Most Android phones are predominately just used as cell phones.

Which is weird, because you might think Android owners are too cheap or poor to buy apps, but that is not the case at all, because clearly they are overpaying for just a cell phone.

I wouldn't say they are predominately used "just as cell phones". Considering the FREE or CHEAP Android phones are the ones you are referring to, they aren't paying much more and they are generally using more than just the Phone. If they aren't downloading a bunch of apps they usually at least have Facebook or Twitter and use the web browser. Still something you can't do well on a normal cell phone.

For that those cheap Android phones would fit their needs just fine while at the same time helping bring reason to diminished Android Market profits compared to userbases.
 
Piracy and I'm guilty of doing this as well. I have the latest versions of Plants vs Zombies and Cut The Rope all for free as well as paid versions of other apps that are pro versions. And of course all three Angry Birds for free because they are ad supported. Way too easy to pirate. Google the apk and use Astro Manager to install. Piracy is far easier on Android than Windows Phone. Very lax attitude similar to pirating apps on Windows PC's or some video game consoles. Then you have developers dealing with different hardware which creates some fragmentation and how you need a credit card to purchase instead of something as simple as an iTunes card. If you like FREE apps, for better and for worse, Android is the top choice.

This is why Android is a developers dream!

It seems Android has surpassed Apple in total apps, but since Apple actually has control over what apps go in the store, it does not seem like much of a comparison. If nobody vetted iPhone apps there would be 3 million of them.
 
iPhones are used as mobile computing devices. Most Android phones are predominately just used as cell phones.

Which is weird, because you might think Android owners are too cheap or poor to buy apps, but that is not the case at all, because clearly they are overpaying for just a cell phone.

LOL...yea sure. Why would it be any different? Even the cheaper smartphone Androids you can do much more than just text and call people.I can do anything on my Galaxy S that i could do on my iPhone.
 
I always laugh when people say this. What if it were 500K, or 600K?

99.9% of people use less than 50 apps, and the best apps are on both platforms. I mean honestly, how many of the bottom 250K apps have you even heard of...

Many of them?

I have like 600 apps on my phone and many of them are speciality niche apps that target a relatively small audience but are extremely useful and valuable. There are a lot of apps like that in the iOS ecosystem.

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LOL...yea sure. Why would it be any different? Even the cheaper smartphone Androids you can do much more than just text and call people.I can do anything on my Galaxy S that i could do on my iPhone.

Have you seen the NUMEROUS studies done on actual internet usage for smartphones? Android has a tiny percentage compared to the iPhone, especially given the number of handsets Android has out there.

There is clear evidence that a huge number of android users primarily use their devices as cell phones first and almost exclusively.

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Are you trolling? I can't tell if you're serious.

I can do way more on my two year old Droid than I can on the iPhone 4S.

What does that have to do with anything?

Most Android handsets are used primarily as cell phones and not as computers... What is hard to understand about that? It is a fact. That you claim you can do whatever on your particular android handset does not change that reality.
 
I have like 600 apps on my phone and many of them are speciality niche apps that target a relatively small audience but are extremely useful and valuable. There are a lot of apps like that in the iOS ecosystem.
$10 says that for every one of these specialty apps, I can find the same or similar apps in the Android market.
What does that have to do with anything?

Most Android handsets are used primarily as cell phones and not as computers... What is hard to understand about that? It is a fact.
I'd like to see where you found this statistic because frankly it just sounds completely fabricated.
 
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Many of them?
Have you seen the NUMEROUS studies done on actual internet usage for smartphones? Android has a tiny percentage compared to the iPhone, especially given the number of handsets Android has out there.

There is clear evidence that a huge number of android users primarily use their devices as cell phones first and almost exclusively.

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What does that have to do with anything?

Most Android handsets are used primarily as cell phones and not as computers... What is hard to understand about that? It is a fact. That you claim you can do whatever on your particular android handset does not change that reality.


It is not a fact. Your "sources" don't prove that at all! It just means that iOS users use more data. PERIOD. It doesn't mean they use their phones only as phones. You're less data doesn't mean they aren't using apps, it just means they aren't using them as frequently. And that's fine. It's their device, if they want to use the internet once a day, they sure as hell can.

That definitely helps explain why Android would have less sales in the market, but that's not a fault of the system at all. In fact, there is no downside to that at all. The primary reason is the entry costs (as I said earlier). If you are getting a free Android phone, why wouldn't you take it? It's still better than a flip phone in the off chance you want GPS or a web browser despite not being a heavy user.
 
I owned a Captivate for a year and I own a Asus Transformer Tablet. I now own a Iphone 4. I have had experience in each of the app markets and honestly, aside from some specialty apps like Infinity blade and some random 99 cent arcade games both app stores are basically the same. Most of the high quality games are on both platforms. 99% of the apps in the appstore and on the android market are a waste of time. The only thing I hated about the android market was that not all apps are compatible with every phone/tablet which really sucks. I can't play Order and Chaos on my transformer because its not supported.
 
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Apple needs to make one very important change... do a test run like Android does, where you can test an app for like 15 minutes and if you like it and want to continue using it you have to buy it. I've bought some app's that ended up being crappy or games that started off cool then developers just disappeared and never fixed bugs or glitches.
 
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