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No Pandora Support on CarPlay, but Apple 'Continues to Be a Valued Partner'
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bad move by Apple. At this moment Apple is in no position to gain more enemies. it's time to waive the white flag and start gaining territory before it's realize that Google and Samsung are the leaders in innovation (even if both are crappy technologies and ugly hardware)
Hmm, I have quite the opposite experience. With Pandora, I never discovered any new music I enjoyed. Ever. I was always given music I knew of or didn't like. With iTunes Radio, I've gotten about 6 new bands in a very limited amount of listening.
Maybe I'm weird.
Totally agree. I listen to pandora when I want to hear songs I like. However, iTunes Radio lets me hear artists I've never heard before or maybe missed out on. iTunes Radio has three options per station. One of which is play only hit music. Then a mix of hit and non hits. And third is discovery of new stations. That part works well. However pandora has the best algorithm and fewer bugs.
iTunes Radio can sometimes play the same song twice in a row. Even if you did or didn't like it. It also tends to play songs you didn't like days later. Apple needs to fix this.
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Um what?
Pandora is a direct competitor. If you want it you can download the app and play it through the car. Apple didn't want to waste on integration.
You really aren't losing out.
Apple made a big mistake on this one by only allowing certain apps CarPlay integration. If an app is allowed in the App Store, its developers should have access to the CarPlay APIs, period. Apple already controls the App Store. I'm not sure why they felt the need to handcuff a new feature that's designed to add even more value to iOS devices. Consumers should be able to choose the in-car experience they want from their iOS devices and developers should be given the ability to provide that experience to their customers.
yeah because at any given time Apple will get medieval on your ass.
I've tried ALL the players. I even went so far as to use VPN for services I couldn't try in Japan. I tried the iOS and DT versions. iTunes is so much better it's not even a contest. I have introduced a LOT of Japanese friends to iTunes Radio and set up US accounts for them so they can use it all day. They frikkin love it.
On some of the rarer stuff you can get more frequent repeats but the songs are songs I really like anyway so it's no big deal. Or I simply click "don't play again' if I don't like it. Rarely happens.
I hardly stream from my 4TB of external HDD now. I usually just create a radio station from my songs that are on that external HDD and it's the same thing.
I would like lossless ALAC but oh well.
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Serving at the pleasure of the king or record company pressure?
Reminds me of this coding horror post. Looks like Apple has decided that iTunes Radio will satisfy instead of Pandora.
http://blog.codinghorror.com/serving-at-the-pleasure-of-the-king/
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Is it record companies pressuring Apple through better payments from iTunes Radio?
Reminds me of this coding horror post. Looks like Apple has decided that iTunes Radio will satisfy instead of Pandora.
http://blog.codinghorror.com/serving-at-the-pleasure-of-the-king/
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Is it record companies pressuring Apple through better payments from iTunes Radio?
"People don't want to rent their music". -Steve Jobs
Agreed. I'd rather own my music than sign up for one of those premium music services.
iTunes radio blew it for me when I was listening to smooth jazz and they snuck in a Norah Jones album. Really? Willie Nelson would fit better.
Spotify has very loud commercials and usually the same crap over and over, plus they try really hard to make you share with all your friends what you're listening to.
I don't know what it is about Pandora though, I've used it on multiple platforms and never liked it. I still don't! For the most part, I don't like those "tell us what you like and we'll play music for you" services because what really happens is you ask for something good, and then they feed you a bunch of songs from 99 cent CDs you find at Ross.
Most of the time, the music isn't even exactly relevant for me :\
Spotify has very loud commercials and usually the same crap over and over, plus they try really hard to make you share with all your friends what you're listening to.
I don't know what it is about Pandora though, I've used it on multiple platforms and never liked it. I still don't! For the most part, I don't like those "tell us what you like and we'll play music for you" services because what really happens is you ask for something good, and then they feed you a bunch of songs from 99 cent CDs you find at Ross.
Most of the time, the music isn't even exactly relevant for me :\
You do realize that you can listen to entire albums on Spotify? Spotify you can play whatever you want. It's very rare that I can't find an album I want to listen to on there.
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How does Samsung innovate on anything? They pack a bunch of hardware into an oversized phone shell and add a few gimmicky features or Apple knockoffs.
Who cares?
People will just skip until they get the song they want.
Algorithms will also get smarter each time people do that.
I was one of them. But quickly changed my mind after I started to use Spotify. I have hardly bought any song ever since.
In stead of looking at it from the ownership point of view, I would recommend you to look at it from the experience point of view and the value to your music listening experience. The beauty of Spotify (and others) is that for a low basic fee you get to discover a vastly larger amount of music, that you normally would not access due to budget limits (unless you don't care and are wealthy). I have discovered many new bands and listen to much more music than before.
It doesn't cost me anything extra to take an hour per day to listen to large amounts of new music. And the beauty of paying that small fee is that I don't get the advertisements and can even download songs to listen to them offline.
I prefer hearing the road noise and the engine with no radio the majority of the time when I drive, mostly audiobooks the rest and if I couldn't listen to music again the rest of my life I really wouldn't feel like I'm missing out on much. I'm probably very much in the minority too.
iTunes Radio is already so far ahead of Pandora that nobody will want CarPlay support for the latter soon to be dead service.
I resent the word being used to describe these services as "radio". Neither iTunes Radio, Pandora, Spotify, Beats, MOG..... yadda yadda are not really radio, they are simple music jukeboxes.
Radio stations, even those who mostly play non stop music, offer far more than a just streamed set of tracks. They offer companionship, personality, interaction, news, traffic and other utility functions which all make the user experience of listening to a radio station completely different. While radio is ubiquitous, and free, the opportunity for listeners to consume streaming audio is also more limited, either because of the lack of proximity to internet access/3G/LTE or just the cost of accessing on a mobile device through subscription fees or even expensive hardware costs.
If you want to listen to on-demand music, that's fine, but it's not radio and it really bugs me when people refer to them as so.
I'm more interested in if something like TuneIn which allows people to listen to thousands of proper radio stations via the internet will work on CarPlay.
Disclosure: I am a radio presenter.
Radio stations, even those who mostly play non stop music, offer far more than a just streamed set of tracks. They offer companionship, personality, interaction, news, traffic and other utility functions which all make the user experience of listening to a radio station completely different. While radio is ubiquitous, and free, the opportunity for listeners to consume streaming audio is also more limited, either because of the lack of proximity to internet access/3G/LTE or just the cost of accessing on a mobile device through subscription fees or even expensive hardware costs.
If you want to listen to on-demand music, that's fine, but it's not radio and it really bugs me when people refer to them as so.
I'm more interested in if something like TuneIn which allows people to listen to thousands of proper radio stations via the internet will work on CarPlay.
Disclosure: I am a radio presenter.
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No Pandora support where I live anyway, so don't care.
Luckily Spofity is available and also will be supported in CarPlay, so I'm happy!
Luckily Spofity is available and also will be supported in CarPlay, so I'm happy!
How do we know they won't open it up more in the future? And it's the car, people should be focusing on driving, not fiddling around with apps on the dash.
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Good grief, Apple just announced this. Isn't it a bit premature to be digging its grave already? Just because it's launching now with just a few apps doesn't mean Apple won't open it up to developers in the future. Is Touch ID a failure because there are no 3rd party APIs for it right now?
Today's music is disposable in my opnion. It's not bad, but it's not great either. It's entertaining, it's fun for like a couple of months and then you are over it. I think that's a big reason why streaming services gained popularity.
For me I still buy what I think is great 'keeper' music, but I have to be honest with you, a lot of the new music I learned about in Pandora, stayed in Pandora.
Soon to be dead? How soon? Already so far ahead? says who? you? They just started less than a year ago, and they are only available on iDevices.
Pandora is cross platform, cross devices. I would argue no other streaming service is available as much as Pandora is. It's already in cars, TVs, Phones, PCs, tablets, and other devices.
As said, it's because iTunes Radio and Pandora are direct competitors. Or to be more clear, Apple blatantly ripped off Pandora in a way even more blatant than Apple accuses Samsung of ripping themselves off. It's really a shame Pandora doesn't have the resources to go after Apple. It's very sad.