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This period of time is like the early 50s, when pop music was generally awful. Then a new genre' emerged called Rock n' Roll. Something new will happen.
 
I guess i live in one of the hotbeds of electronic music (just outside london) a lot of the styles from the nineties are doing the rounds again here, garage, grime, house etc.... but theyre all kind of blending in together.

And most importantly theres actual bass in the music, not just mids.

You lot have got monster zoku onsomb! though, who are actually awesome :D

I would kill for a club that played 90s house and dance music, or even had that familiar UK beat which I grew up with in the 90s.

Monster zoku onsomb, they sound a lot like a mash up of The Prodigy and maybe Aphex Twin/Chemical Brothers.
 
I would kill for a club that played 90s house and dance music, or even had that familiar UK beat which I grew up with in the 90s.

Monster zoku onsomb, they sound a lot like a mash up of The Prodigy and maybe Aphex Twin/Chemical Brothers.

Sounds like an awesome mashup to me.

Its because they are awesome.

Orestes1984, there's not many clubs that play things from that actual era now, but there's a few scenes that are going back to a modern take on that sound...... I particularly like modern 4x4 and garage as it reminds me of growing up just outside london (even though I was a total metaller then, I knew a lot of people into garage and drum and bass, and I was as well, but more thinly spread).

PM me if you want any links for mixes etc..... its quite rare to find anyone here who's interested in a more classic style of electronic music, rather than diplo and his twerking girls. :rolleyes:

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Sounds like an awesome mashup to me.

They are an awesome act, very weird though.... Otto Von Schirach is the same.
 
PM me if you want any links for mixes etc..... its quite rare to find anyone here who's interested in a more classic style of electronic music, rather than diplo and his twerking girls. :rolleyes:


I got well into a lot of the harder UK stuff, UK hard house and all that, but even that scene is changing over here, more into stuff out of Rotterdam. Gabber and Hard Style.

I've been to a few raves in my day, always said I'd get over to the UK and experience the real thing. I got as far as Paris last time I was over there.
 
I got well into a lot of the harder UK stuff, UK hard house and all that, but even that scene is changing over here, more into stuff out of Rotterdam. Gabber and Hard Style.

I've been to a few raves in my day, always said I'd get over to the UK and experience the real thing. I got as far as Paris last time I was over there.

Im into the harder side of it too (aswell as the bassline and garage), don't tend to be too forthcoming with that information though.

If you haven't come across them already, check out PRSPCT recordings drum and bass/tekno/Gabber straight out of rotterdam.... one of my fave labels on the scene.

Drum and bass has always been big in the UK, the tekno side of things more so in the north of the UK and across the north sea into holland/belgium etc....

Thats one thing I like about living in the UK, the electronic music scene.
 
Im into the harder side of it too (aswell as the bassline and garage), don't tend to be too forthcoming with that information though.

If you haven't come across them already, check out PRSPCT recordings drum and bass/tekno/Gabber straight out of rotterdam.... one of my fave labels on the scene.

Drum and bass has always been big in the UK, the tekno side of things more so in the north of the UK and across the north sea into holland/belgium etc....

Thats one thing I like about living in the UK, the electronic music scene.

I can only imagine, I went to the first few editions of Defqon 1 in Sydney, but now since the local bell ends, and lads have found out about it I don't think I'll be going back. There is getting to be a pretty vibrant Dutch Hardcore scene particularly in Sydney, but honestly I'm more into the happy side of things where that split off in the UK in the early/mid 90s rather than the gabber kind of thing.

Same, same, but very different. I've seen a fair amount of it in my times from the usual suspects from UFO, to Hixxy to Darren Styles, they flew his voiceover chick over here also one time, I've seen Dougal and Gammer also, but it's not the same as the big scale kind of event the way Defqon 1 is here in Sydney when you get to go to HTID or something of the sort over there.

Honestly, I love the scene, I'm just getting too old and it's kind of a necessity to grow out of it, rather than... Well I'm sure you know and have seen the alternative.
 
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I can only imagine, I went to the first few editions of Defqon 1 in Sydney, but now since the local bell ends, and lads have found out about it I don't think I'll be going back. There is getting to be a pretty vibrant Dutch Hardcore scene particularly in Sydney, but honestly I'm more into the happy side of things where that split off in the UK in the early/mid 90s rather than the gabber kind of thing.

Same, same, but very different. I've seen a fair amount of it in my times from the usual suspects from UFO, to Hixxy to Darren Styles, they flew his voiceover chick over here also one time, I've seen Dougal and Gammer also, but it's not the same as the big scale kind of event the way Defqon 1 is here in Sydney when you get to go to HTID or something of the sort over there.

Honestly, I love the scene, I'm just getting too old and it's kind of a necessity to grow out of it, rather than... Well I'm sure you know and have seen the alternative.

Ah theres never a necessity to grow out of it.......... I go raving with people in their 50's and 60's :p

I don't mind Gammer.... But find Hixxy quite irritating...... I like a bit of amen in my music though..... Spongebob squarewave is basically the happy medium between hardcore, donk, jungle, and breakcore :D
 
I just notice that as I get older, I find that I tend to stick to bands I already love and/or their older material, as well as material from the ashes of broken-up bands I loved (think Velvet Revolver, Audioslave, or Winery Dogs).

I also purchase older material from older bands I was unfamiliar with. For example, I recently discovered both Interpol and Clutch; they quickly became some of my favorite bands. Subsequently, I ended up purchasing their ENTIRE catalog.

However, very few new bands grab my interest. As it is, I'm waiting for new releases from:

Tool
Metallica (hopefully with Rick Rubin again and not F'in Bob Rock)
System of A Down
Rage Against the Machine (or anything Tom Morello is in)
Alice in Chains
Soundgarden
Dream Theater
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Foo Fighters
Green Day
STP

Yes, I LOVED the 90s.

It seems that, since my taste is primarily on the hard-rock/metal/prog genre (I listen to everything though), I tend to go backwards in time and hunt for guitar-driven music. Rush, Hendrix (Band of Gypsies is bad-ass), Iron Maiden's older catalog, Van Halen, etc. I already have so much music, my playlists never, ever get boring.

Thus, i don't purchase new music often.
 
More artists nowadays are independent. They make more money selling 1/4 of platinum than those who go platinum and are sign to those 360 or similar deals.
 
I just notice that as I get older, I find that I tend to stick to bands I already love and/or their older material, as well as material from the ashes of broken-up bands I loved (think Velvet Revolver, Audioslave, or Winery Dogs).

I also purchase older material from older bands I was unfamiliar with. For example, I recently discovered both Interpol and Clutch; they quickly became some of my favorite bands. Subsequently, I ended up purchasing their ENTIRE catalog.

However, very few new bands grab my interest. As it is, I'm waiting for new releases from:

Tool
Metallica (hopefully with Rick Rubin again and not F'in Bob Rock)
System of A Down
Rage Against the Machine (or anything Tom Morello is in)
Alice in Chains
Soundgarden
Dream Theater
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Foo Fighters
Green Day
STP

Yes, I LOVED the 90s.

It seems that, since my taste is primarily on the hard-rock/metal/prog genre (I listen to everything though), I tend to go backwards in time and hunt for guitar-driven music. Rush, Hendrix (Band of Gypsies is bad-ass), Iron Maiden's older catalog, Van Halen, etc. I already have so much music, my playlists never, ever get boring.

Thus, i don't purchase new music often.

You probably know about these already, but if you don't and are pining for something different, they may be up your street....

Audioslave - RATM musicians with Chris Cornell as frontman, first album was great, no idea about the rest though.

The Nightwatchman - Tom morello's solo album.

Serj Tankian - Lead singer of SOAD started putting solo albums out, I got elect the dead which I think was on par with anything by SOAD, although more theatrical.... I don't know about the other stuff he's done.

I know what you mean about discovering older bands too, I've recently discovered Godspeed You Black Emporer, which I'd never heard of before, but I'm totally besotted with..... But I've always had a but of a penchant for experimental music.

I've been listening to portishead a lot again lately, Dummy has always been one of my favorite albums, and its 20 years old this year (thats depressing), so I bought it on re-released vinyl, it sounds beautiful on that.
 
I guess I spoke too soon, Taylor Swift's Album 1989 went platinum!

All of this leads some industry observers to suspect that 1989 could be the last platinum album ever .

“I would like to believe that this recent achievement could be a sign of more to come,” says entertainment attorney Lori Landew of Fox Rothschild. “[But] I tend to believe that it is more an aberration that can be attributed to a super strong and loyal fan base.”

As my colleague Hugh McIntyre pointed out, five albums had gone platinum by this time last year. Justin Timberlake’s The 20/20 Experience led the way, moving over 2 million units by the start of the fourth quarter.

This year is a different story, and the reasons are fairly straightforward. Recorded music sales have been on a steep decline over the past decade or so, first because of piracy, and more recently due to the rise of streaming.

The latter, of course, is an improvement over the former: artists and songwriters do get paid for streams. While rates leave much to be desired, services like Spotify and Pandora are far better for musicians than Napster. And they’re just as easy, if not easier, to use—which is why streaming is well on its way to replacing the digital download.

According to Nielsen’s midyear music report, digital sales dipped 13% in this year’s first six months as album sales dropped 14.3%. That went hand-in-hand with a 42% increase in streaming.
forbes.com
 
Before downloads, one had to buy an entire Compilation, CD, Record. Now favs from an album can be DLed... leaving the rest in limbo. The fragmentation factor destroyed the RIAA system. Em Pee Three killed the Radio Star.
 
It's interesting to see the regional variation; there are currently eight Platinum albums in the NZ charts (and there may be others have have dropped out of the charts; I don't know how to tell). While an album only needs to sell 15000 copies to be certified Platinum here, when corrected for population it's a very similar proportion as the US figures (approximately 0.33% of population).

Some albums are at "Platinum x2" or more (the highest currently being at x6) so, proportionally, the local music industry doesn't seem to be in as much of a slump.

For what it's worth, "1989" is only Gold here, meaning that it's sold between 7500 and 15000 copies.
 
There is lots to enjoy with British Indie rock and pop music, The Kooks, Mumford and sons, Franz Ferdinand, Kaiser Chiefs, Two Door Cinema Club, The Fratelis, Bombay Bicycle Club, Arctic Monkeys, The Verve...

Probably the Wombats are my favourite British Indie band although I still like American indie rock such as Foster the People.

Mumford & Sons is the only band that I know (they are excellent) and only because I saw them on Saturday Night Live (American skit show). That shows how hard it is to connect with a lot of good music these days. There is such a plethora of sources one person can't monitor all of them, unlike the days when AM/FM radio was the only source of music.
 
... There is such a plethora of sources one person can't monitor all of them, unlike the days when AM/FM radio was the only source of music.

Well, back in "those days" there was another source of discovering new music (other than AM/FM), which were known as "record stores."

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You could simply ask, and one of the hippie girls working there would offer musical recommendations and even open up and play an album on the store's stereo system. Many of these "record stores" also sold items known as "books" (both new and used), "strings" (for your guitar), and other "things" commonly needed when listening to music (such as bong screens and incense.)
 
It's interesting to see the regional variation; there are currently eight Platinum albums in the NZ charts (and there may be others have have dropped out of the charts; I don't know how to tell). While an album only needs to sell 15000 copies to be certified Platinum here, when corrected for population it's a very similar proportion as the US figures (approximately 0.33% of population).

Some albums are at "Platinum x2" or more (the highest currently being at x6) so, proportionally, the local music industry doesn't seem to be in as much of a slump.

For what it's worth, "1989" is only Gold here, meaning that it's sold between 7500 and 15000 copies.

Wow.... Those are some low numbers!
 
Kawai'i Metal. 'nuff said. :p

BL.

Babymetal.... I cannot stop listening to them.

Even their music videos are better than most mainstream stuff.

I just notice that as I get older, I find that I tend to stick to bands I already love and/or their older material, as well as material from the ashes of broken-up bands I loved (think Velvet Revolver, Audioslave, or Winery Dogs).

I also purchase older material from older bands I was unfamiliar with. For example, I recently discovered both Interpol and Clutch; they quickly became some of my favorite bands. Subsequently, I ended up purchasing their ENTIRE catalog.

However, very few new bands grab my interest. As it is, I'm waiting for new releases from:

Tool
Metallica (hopefully with Rick Rubin again and not F'in Bob Rock)
System of A Down
Rage Against the Machine (or anything Tom Morello is in)
Alice in Chains
Soundgarden
Dream Theater
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Foo Fighters
Green Day
STP

Yes, I LOVED the 90s.

It seems that, since my taste is primarily on the hard-rock/metal/prog genre (I listen to everything though), I tend to go backwards in time and hunt for guitar-driven music. Rush, Hendrix (Band of Gypsies is bad-ass), Iron Maiden's older catalog, Van Halen, etc. I already have so much music, my playlists never, ever get boring.

Thus, i don't purchase new music often.

Ever listen to Puscifier? It's one of Maynard James Keenan's side projects (beside Tool and APC).



I've been finding myself listening to mashups/mixes on Soundcloud and stuff more than I have been listening to mainstream music. I've been in love with Pogo's stuff on youtube, he basically will take a movie or TV show, and make music from sounds and bits of dialogue. It's pretty amazing.

 
This period of time is like the early 50s, when pop music was generally awful. Then a new genre' emerged called Rock n' Roll. Something new will happen.

It may take a little longer for the inevitable "new" to turn up, though.

There are more people chasing the possibility of making a buck off pop music, and more people figuring that whatever sells is exactly what to make more of. There's no natural "crash" that must follow a bubble of that sort as there may be in financial investment circles. So it takes awhile -- and audience boredom!!-- for the tailing-off to get noticed by the soundalike bands, especially since they're not likely to be as highly leveraged and therefore as risk-aware as Wall Street has to be (or is supposed to be) when getting neck-deep in a particular type of product.

With music distribution more fragmented, it's both easier and harder to get the audience to shift gears. As an indie musician or band, you can make at least some money without making the top of pop charts, and sometimes without having to tour even locally. But you're not going to have the muscle of big labels pushing your record up the charts either, so your use of networking and social media's potential to extrapolate your own efforts become key.
 
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