iPad Pro NO Resolution Increase?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Peter K., Mar 21, 2016.

  1. Peter K. macrumors 6502a

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    If Apple had upped the PPI, I would have been staying up late to get an early pre-order in. Now, I might just skip it altogether.

    The (bigger) iPad Pro is at 264 PPI and the iPhones Plus are at 401. Continuing the 9.7" iPad(s) at 264 is just unacceptable, IMO.
     
  2. Michael Goff Suspended

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    And the higher PPI is great for when you hold your phone close to your face. How close do you hold the iPad?
     
  3. Peter K. thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    This has been argued beyond ad infinitum here. Let me just say that not everybody has 20/20 vision. Many have 20/15, 20/10...

     
  4. Michael Goff Suspended

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    Okay? I'm missing the point. Increase the resolution, decreasing battery life, simply because some people might possibly have too good of eyesight and see pixels when 99.9% won't? Is that what you're arguing?
     
  5. VesselA macrumors regular

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    very dissapointing from apple, they didn't even redesign the se or rename it properly and I assume its still the 326 ppi. I thought the ipad may be 4k, the 13 inch will be next time probably. I would have considered the 4 inch phone if it had increased ppi. It surprises me how many dont seem bothered by the stagnating ppi, must be due to poor eyesight. Apple are just trying to save money, the 13 inch pro should have had 4K video and the good camera, but again cutting corners.
     
  6. Arline macrumors regular

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    I was a little disappointed as I hold my iPad very close to my eyes in bed and thus I see the pixels clearly at 264 PPI. I think a resolution bump is coming, maybe next generation Pro.
     
  7. bufffilm macrumors 601

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    Boy, it must s*ck to be you. /sarcasm/

    Guess you have to wait a little longer then.
     
  8. Michael Goff Suspended

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    Think you meant to quote the other guy?
     
  9. bufffilm macrumors 601

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    I fixed it...I had the right message picked before tapping reply but something went wrong
     
  10. Michael Goff Suspended

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    Ah, okay.

    MR has been having issues today.
     
  11. Peter K. thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    It does, indeed, suck to be me.
     
  12. pr0230 Suspended

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    You guys who are upset with NO 4K dont get APPLE... Apple is the MASTER of Managing Desire.... You could not have an Ipad with 4K and the 12.9 NOT having it... This October Apple will upgrade the 12.9 to 4K .... and THEN NEXT March the 9.7 will get 4K...

    And for those that say the current PPI is MORE than adequate, you are correct... But this is not about adequate, its about NEW, THE NEXT, THE LATEST, I GOTTA HAVE...

    As of this Apple announcement, I have NOTHING I DESIRE... I have a 5S and works just fine... I have an IPAD 5 WITH retina display 128 GB, works just fine... Im typing on a mini mac connected to a 70" TV, works Just fine...

    Cheers!
     
  13. aevan macrumors 68000

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    It almost certainly won't. 4K is just a number, and the tradeoffs are too big for an advantage that is almost unnoticeable. If you want a lot of crazy numbers that don't mean anything in real use, check out Android.
     
  14. mrklaw macrumors 65816

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    why is it unacceptable to continue the ipad 9.7" at the same PPI as the 12.9"? Surely that makes sense - you get the same pixel density but more usable space.

    Increasing the resolution would have made it difficult for developers - you'd have two 9.7" devices with different resolutions.
     
  15. mobywv macrumors newbie

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    I agree. Ridiculous that my old ass Kindle Fire HDX still has better resolution than the latest iPad. And trust me, when you're watching a movie, you most certainly do notice the difference. So, I'll wait for the resolution bump. Don't need a super computer to play Clash of Clans, Clash Royale, or Game of War.
     
  16. Krevnik macrumors 68040

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    I'm wondering if the difference has anything to do with the resolution, or the quality of the upscaling. Both the HDX and the 9.7" iPad have screens higher in resolution than 1080p. They both have to upscale to fill the screen.
     
  17. qap macrumors 6502

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    Was Jobs kidding...or 264ppi is "not retina"?

    retina-100611-2.jpg
     
  18. baypharm macrumors 65816

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    Yes. I concur. My Ipad Air has the same resolution - and it's two years old
     
  19. nj-morris macrumors 68000

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    Just because you can see the pixels, does not mean that they have to be smaller, with a difference of a silk fibre in length. Doesn't make sense. It's all just marketing. People want to believe that there is a huge difference, so they do. But in the grander scheme of things, it makes a tiny improvement in the user experience.
     
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    You hold the iPad further away, so the number is different.
     
  21. Arline macrumors regular

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    Even 300 isn't the limit. Difference in sharpness of 6S and 6S+ is clearly noticeable. There is a limit though, it ain't 300. I don't see the difference between 6S+ and 1440p Android phones though, so the limit for phones should be around 400. Maybe 350 for tablets.
     
  22. qap macrumors 6502

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    And why the iPad Pro 13 has the same 264ppi? I think you will look closely to the 9,7 model compared to the 12.9" but why both have the same resolution?
    And why the iPhone Plus has 401ppi (with bigger screen) compared to the 324ppi of the normal iPhone 6S?

    Trust me, it's only a commercial number, the Pro9,7 has a down-clocked CPU/GPU, for that the screen res is the same as the Air. Because more pixel is equal to more CPU/GPU power, and Apple can't add a lot of more power inside the same case of the Air2, due to heat problem. Only for that the Pro9,7 has this "low res" display. I'm pretty sure the new Pro 2 will have a 2x res display with the new TSMC chip bult with 7nm process and less heat (due to the smaller size of the internal bits).

    At the moment it's impossible make a 2x res display of the iPad Pro 9,7 with the same A9x in the same Air 2 case. And Apple can't something like "1,2x or 1.5x" display because it should make a weird use of the pixel in the UI (with a lot of problem for the sharpness due to not a double increase of the GUI elements).

    It's not a big deal, it should be very fast with this resolution and a very powerful chip.
     
  23. Michael Goff Suspended

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    Are you holding the normal iPad that much closer? I didn't.
     
  24. masotime macrumors 68000

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    It's long been discussed and acknowledged that the PPI limit is relative to how far you hold it from your eye. When you think about it... this is actually kind of obvious. This is why TVs are huge but still look sharp from a distance.

    I'm pretty sure the iPad Air 3 isn't dead however. I'm expecting them to launch it in the fall as normal, and to come with a higher resolution. I think it's quite possible that the A10 could support something closer to 4K resolutions. The "Pro" moniker isn't simply to make more profits - casual users that just play games, consume media or surf the web on the iPad really don't need the Smart connector or Apple Pencil support. Although the better speakers I'm not sure if they'll be in the next "non-Pro" iPad.
     
  25. DSTOFEL macrumors 6502

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    I tend to agree with you. I'd really like to see an update to the resolution of the iPad. At least Apple did us a favor by giving us the Air 2. It and the iPad 2 before it are the "longevity" iPads in the iPad lineage (IMHO). At least those of us with iPad Air 2's can opt to wait it out for another cycle if we so choose. The Air 2 will hang in there just fine for a while to come.
     

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