No True Tone on Neo

[Kevinm1]

That must be the most annoying missing feature for me. I tried to deactivate True Tone on my IPad and it doesn’t look good. It looks cold and bluish. Any ways to mitigate this and make the screen warmer?

 

[4sallypat]

Not an issue for me.
I don't plan on using the Neo for photo or video editing.

YouTube, email and some social media streaming where the hasty uploaded video quality is poor to start with.

 

[Saturn1217]

There are three groups of people:

- people who have no idea what True Tone is and don’t care whether it is on or off
- people who know what True Tone is and hate it and turn it off
- people who know what true tone is and actually use it.

I think chances are very good that for the MacBook Neo’s target market, the first two groups vastly outnumber the third. So I think Apple made the right choice here.

 

[iHorseHead]

Not an issue for me.
I don't plan on using the Neo for photo or video editing.

YouTube, email and some social media streaming where the hasty uploaded video quality is poor to start with.

But TrueTone is more comfortable for everything else too. Even for casual use. Even typing on MacRumors is better on TrueTone.

 

[Genelec8341]

There are three groups of people:

- people who have no idea what True Tone is and don’t care whether it is on or off
- people who know what True Tone is and hate it and turn it off
- people who know what true tone is and actually use it.

I think chances are very good that for the MacBook Neo’s target market, the first two groups vastly outnumber the third. So I think Apple made the right choice here.

Yep, I'm a #2

 

[ignatius345]

That must be the most enjoying missing feature for me. I tried to deactivate True Tone on my IPad and it doesn’t look good. It looks cold and bluish. Any ways to mitigate this and make the screen warmer?

You mean on the Neo? You would have to do the following:

System Settings > Displays > Color Profile > Customize... > hit the + button to open Display Calibrator Assistant and create a new display profile with the warmer color temperature you prefer

Could also play with Night Shift settings at one of the lower levels and see if that does it for you.

 

[ignatius345]

There are three groups of people:

- people who have no idea what True Tone is and don’t care whether it is on or off
- people who know what True Tone is and hate it and turn it off
- people who know what true tone is and actually use it.

I think chances are very good that for the MacBook Neo’s target market, the first two groups vastly outnumber the third. So I think Apple made the right choice here.

I have it turned on and never notice it -- which is kind of the point. In any given lighting situation the white balance is such that a white background on screen looks the same as a piece of white paper in that same lighting.

 

[chown33]

Could also play with Night Shift settings at one of the lower levels and see if that does it for you.

That's what I've done on my MB Pro and iPad mini.

 

[4sallypat]

But TrueTone is more comfortable for everything else too. Even for casual use. Even typing on MacRumors is better on TrueTone.

I guess I am @Saturn1217 group #1.

Only thing I care about is to turn down the blue light at night so my devices display more "yellow" or warm look before going to bed.

 

[ignatius345]

That's what I've done on my MB Pro and iPad mini.

There’s also f.lux, but it’s gotten a bit clunky lately. I don’t think they ever quite recovered from being sherlocked by Night Shift.

 

[uiop.]

Not a huge loss, IMO. I sometimes turn true tone off on my MBP and iPhone, it makes content look wonky at times.

 

[maflynn]

There were a number of sacrifices that were made, both from a financial perspective, i.e., less components and from a product segmentation perspective you need to make a 500 dollar laptop a lot different and less capable then a thousand or several thousand dollar laptop

 

[nmt1900]

There’s also f.lux, but it’s gotten a bit clunky lately. I don’t think they ever quite recovered from being sherlocked by Night Shift.

True Tone and Night Shift are different things. f.lux is intended to provide functionality similar to Night Shift with more detailed configuration. It has nothing to do with True Tone.

 

[ignatius345]

True Tone and Night Shift are different things. f.lux is intended to provide functionality similar to Night Shift with more detailed configuration. It has nothing to do with True Tone.

I’m fully aware of what True Tone, Night Shift and f.lux do, thanks.

Since you read my post out of context: someone was asking how they might warm up their display’s color temperature on a MacBook Neo, and I was throwing out ways one might do that with software since the machine doesn’t have True Tone to responsively adjust white balance to match ambient lighting.

 

[joshwithachance]

This is arguably the biggest omission for me personally. Along with the lack of P3. I already find the Air's display rather lackluster, particularly in terms of contrast, so I can't imagine living with a display even less impressive on the day to day...

But for a laptop starting at $499 for students and $599 for everyone else, it's a total non-issue.

 

[orbital~debris]

This is arguably the biggest omission for me personally. Along with the lack of P3. I already find the Air's display rather lackluster, particularly in terms of contrast, so I can't imagine living with a display even less impressive on the day to day...

But for a laptop starting at $499 for students and $599 for everyone else, it's a total non-issue.

I'd miss True Tone, but I'd also miss a backlight on the Magic Keyboard and MagSafe.

But on the other hand, these omissions are what make that market-share-expanding price possible.

 

[joshwithachance]

I'd miss True Tone, but I'd also miss a backlight on the Magic Keyboard and MagSafe.

But on the other hand, these omissions are what make that market-share-expanding price possible.

Oh same! And while 8GB is enough for basic, day to day, tasks it's the absolute bare minimum and very likely will NOT be enough for much longer. I'm also just not a fan of the huge ass bezels either.

 

[The Cockney Rebel]

That must be the most annoying missing feature for me. I tried to deactivate True Tone on my IPad and it doesn’t look good. It looks cold and bluish. Any ways to mitigate this and make the screen warmer?

You're right.

I love True Tone, on all of my devices.

Just disabled it, on my M2 MBA, and the screen went completely blue.

 

[Corefile]

That must be the most annoying missing feature for me. I tried to deactivate True Tone on my IPad and it doesn’t look good. It looks cold and bluish. Any ways to mitigate this and make the screen warmer?

Lots of people are panicking saying feature X isn't in the Neo so it will impact the laptop. People buying a 500 dollar laptop don't make buying decisions based on feature X unless feature X is a keyboard or display.

 

[Zazoh]

As someone who learned to type on a typewriter, I’m puzzled over the popularity of backlit keyboards. I almost never look at the keyboard and having the display right over the keyboard ensures is is almost never not lit anyway.

 

[splitpea]

As someone who uses non-Apple external displays -- one of them currently with a desktop Mac that has no ambient lighting sensors -- I'm baffled by this discussion.

Besides that: the target audience for the Neo are people who are interested in Macs because they have iPhones, but have never bought one because it's too expensive. They have no expectation for anything like TrueTone. If you do, you're probably not in the target audience. (I'm not in the target audience either, because I can't imagine ever again trying to use a computer with only 8GB of RAM, but that's neither here nor there.)

 

[4sallypat]

As someone who learned to type on a typewriter, I’m puzzled over the popularity of backlit keyboards. I almost never look at the keyboard and having the display right over the keyboard ensures is is almost never not lit anyway.

Right ?

I learned how to type on a manual typewriter back in the 1980's and since then, I don't look at the keyboard whilst typing.

Never really noticed the backlit keyboards until I was on a plane watching movies on my 12" rMB and had to turn it off.

Then, my Apple Magic 101 full sized keyboard I am using now to type on a Mac Studio Max - never had backlit keys either.....

 

[SnowCrocodile]

That must be the most annoying missing feature for me. I tried to deactivate True Tone on my IPad and it doesn’t look good. It looks cold and bluish. Any ways to mitigate this and make the screen warmer?

You get used to it after a while, and True Tone would look unnaturally yellow. When I first got into photo editing and calibrated my Windows monitor, I had to force myself to use it for a week until it started looking "natural" to me.

Unless you do photo processing, True Tone is optional.

 

[ClaraStahlbaum]

I don't use True Tone. I never found a use for it.

 

[mammamia24]

As someone who learned to type on a typewriter, I’m puzzled over the popularity of backlit keyboards. I almost never look at the keyboard and having the display right over the keyboard ensures is is almost never not lit anyway.

This also confuses me I started really learning how to touch type in gr. 9 business class and had many classes in college where we were graded on our WPM scores. So I don’t understand the discourse I’m seeing with the Neo not having back lit keys.