no use of firewire 800?

afornander

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i have bin looking at macs at apple.com, and i noticed, NONE OF THEM HAVE FIREWIRE 800. they all have firewire 400. why would apple keep such a great technology from being used. plus, they acualy sell the firewire 800 cable in the apple store, WTF!! am i missing something here?
 

eva01

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Gah! Plymouth
PowerMac has firewire 800, MBP 17" has Firewire 800

so where exactly have you been looking? Obviously not Apple's site
 

afornander

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oops

Expansion

* 15-inch MacBook Pro
o One FireWire 400 port at up to 400 Mbps
o Two 480-Mbps USB 2.0 ports
o ExpressCard/34 slot
* 17-inch MacBook Pro
o One FireWire 400 port at up to 400 Mbps
o One FireWire 800 port at up to 800 Mbps
o Three 480-Mbps USB 2.0 ports
o ExpressCard/34 slot
ya, i guess the mbp 17" has it. i still dont see y they wouldnt put it in an imac at least.
 

Grimace

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It's odd to me that Apple has been distancing itself from the technology that it gave birth to. I see more and more Windows computers with firewire 400 ports (probably in response to iPods a few years back). I think the name and technology had become well known enough to warrant continuing its existence. Oh well...RIP.
 

afornander

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u would think they would put them in the imac until the powermac comes out though, wouldnt you.:confused:
 

Eraserhead

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The only use (that i can think of) of Firewire 800 over Firewire 400 is for high speed hard drive space, other than that I cannot think of an advantage over Firewire 400, i use my LACIE 250 over Firewire 400 just fine, it can transfer about 1GB/minute which is plenty for most people (including me), the only people who need more speed are pros doing video editing or another high powered usage which needs lots of disk space, therefore only the pro machines need it (though the 15" MBP should get it too...)

Why it's not in the iMac's is because once you add a feature you cannot take it away again.
 

Makosuke

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Frankly, FireWire 800 has established itself as basically a standard used by video pros for external storage. That's not the only thing it's useful for, but that's pretty much who's using it.

FW400 has a place for DV video, and Apple had BETTER keep including it on every single Mac they ship for the forseeable future. But FW 800 is (sadly) more or less a "pro" format now. As such, the 17" MBP, which is your portable editing studio, has it, and the PowerMac replacement probably will.

Everything else, no, and I can see why. They probably should have put it on the 15" MPB, but no way it's going to end up on an iMac.

It's a shame that FW didn't scale as quickly as it was intended, since at this point external SATA has pretty much taken its place for very high-speed external storage. Again, 400 is ingrained for DV video, but for high speed storage, 800 has already lost the fight for the most part.
 

MisterMe

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carletonmusic said:
... Oh well...RIP.
How do you figure that? FireWire is going nowhere but up. It is the connection technology for digital video. Virtually every HDTV settop box ships with FireWire ports. So too do any digital camcorders than I would want. You can edit miniDV and HDV on your Mac only through the FireWire connection. Just because new iPods don't have FireWire ports does not mean that the technology is dead. The opposite is true.
 

bloodycape

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Makosuke said:
Everything else, no, and I can see why. They probably should have put it on the 15" MPB, but no way it's going to end up on an iMac.
Yes I agree there that the 15in MBP should have firewire 800 I probably would not be using it but it would be nice to know it is there.
 

zap2

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iBrow said:
Its a comsumer Machine, you dont see any Dell Dimensions with FW 800.

Yes, because Apple is know for copying Dell;)

Honestly I would love to see a push for FW 800 to replace FW 400, FW 400 is great but FW 800 is SO much better. Once FW 400 was dead, BlueTooth could start going after USB, and USB 2.0 would have no place other then mice, keyboard and other small add ons, which would slowly be replaced by BlueTooth

But sadly Apple is simply not going to give the iMac FW 800 , but it would be a step in the right way!

BlueTooth mice and keyboard, with FW 800 iPods, Flash Drives, iSights ect