no way to make Face ID open phone to home screen?

madeirabhoy

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So many threads about this topic and I still don't understand, what's so hard about swiping up on the lock screen.o_O

when your phone is sitting on the table it daftly means that Face ID is actually more hassle than with an old phone and your thumb. as you have to pick up the phone and turn it to your face and then with your other hand swipe up. whereas if you could just lift it to your face and see your home screen or last opened app, it'd be quicker.
 

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when your phone is sitting on the table it daftly means that Face ID is actually more hassle than with an old phone and your thumb. as you have to pick up the phone and turn it to your face and then with your other hand swipe up. whereas if you could just lift it to your face and see your home screen or last opened app, it'd be quicker.
And then when they change this to what you want you’ll start saying “I can’t believe Apple is so daft to allow someone’s phone to unlock while sitting on a table by just looking at it because it’s such a security concern.”

Apple designs things a certain way for a reason.
 

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when your phone is sitting on the table it daftly means that Face ID is actually more hassle than with an old phone and your thumb. as you have to pick up the phone and turn it to your face and then with your other hand swipe up. whereas if you could just lift it to your face and see your home screen or last opened app, it'd be quicker.


You can't pick up your phone and swipe up with one hand?
 
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I feel the same. I am also bothered by having to swipe up a multitude of times to close an app. There are certain concerns for people that want to keep data private.

That point is moot. People have released all their personal info on line. Law doesn’t need to go to their database anymore.

Every company I have used sent me a notice they were hacked. ******* has been paying for *** ***** ID on my behalf for years due to the loss of everyone’s data.

******** is now taking over the cost of a service which probably means they lost all data recently and will continue to monitor all financials and ? at no cost using a more sophisticated company. No company is required to report a breech.

******* main billing center is in my area so is it's huge experimental facility. They notified they lost all data for customers they service in NY. Not common knowledge but the “hack” was old school.

A third party janitorial service employee took all the hard drives, placed them in a wheeled carrier and was gone. IT took 20 minutes to find all the drives were missing.

All this say, it should have an enable, disable. Or, there might be a way to make Siri do it using shortcuts. I’m not capable of spending time writing shortcuts. I have looked for templates. I do know Apple is most concerned with security.

As one post says, Apple does things differently, the iPad 11 is the tenth in the iPad line I’ve purchased, flawless outwardly and inside not one glitch or blue screen or hack for all ten. As possible to perfect a human can get to perfection. If the numbers don’t add up. I did not get iPad one but there was a year with a double release of iPad in the same year.

Thank you for putting up with the verbiage.

One question I’ve had for a while. What is to prevent law from holding the Face ID up to your face? Then, swipe up. Really doesn’t make a difference if it goes to home screen or not at that point.

I’m hoping someone can point me to pre written shortcuts that make Siri close apps entirely, open to home screen, all the things I've had to do manually with a button using it every day, all day. I thought Face ID would solve all those problems.

Thank you.
 
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madeirabhoy

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You can't pick up your phone and swipe up with one hand?


yes, but its just as much hassle and risks me dropping it, im clumsy so either way it's annoying.
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And then when they change this to what you want you’ll start saying “I can’t believe Apple is so daft to allow someone’s phone to unlock while sitting on a table by just looking at it because it’s such a security concern.”

Apple designs things a certain way for a reason.


why would I say that?

and are you saying apples designs have never been wrong?
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Not sure if this is meant to be a frivolous post, but its designed to work that way so you can at least see your notifications.


no its not frivolous, I find it annoying. why can it not even be a settings. or even can't apple come up with something clever, like since its watching your face what about blink eyes for home screen? or shake the phone if thats too high tech?
 
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when your phone is sitting on the table it daftly means that Face ID is actually more hassle than with an old phone and your thumb. as you have to pick up the phone and turn it to your face and then with your other hand swipe up. whereas if you could just lift it to your face and see your home screen or last opened app, it'd be quicker.
Itd be quicker to never lock your phone too.
That way you never have to unlock it!

I hope this thread is a troll attempt
 
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madeirabhoy

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Itd be quicker to never lock your phone too.
That way you never have to unlock it!

I hope this thread is a troll attempt

actually, if Face ID went straight to home screen, it wouldn't really be quicker would it?

and you can see from the amount of other times people have posted about it, that its not just me.

and its not just about the home screen, when the phone goes to sleep when you were looking at something then its annoying to Face ID then swipe.

what is the point of Face ID replacing fingerprints (which could surely have been done without a home button) if you have to swipe anyway?

and as a side issue, lots of defensiveness, 'hope this thread is a troll attempt'....
 
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and its not just about the home screen, when the phone goes to sleep when you were looking at something then its annoying to Face ID then swipe.

what is the point of Face ID replacing fingerprints (which could surely have been done without a home button)
if you have to swipe anyway?
Haha omg are you even serious?

1) if you dont want you screen to turn off while reading - use a setting which has been available since 1.0. Its called Auto-Lock. Set it to never.

2) You think its so simple to implement touch id accuracy into a screen? Why has noone done it to that security level yet? Some companies are trying - and yes - it works but its not as efficient nor as developed yet.

You are no longer just complaining about the practicality of faceid swipe but complaining about not having touchid in a screen yet. How dare technology not keep up with your demands!

Sabotaging your own thread haha this is gold
 
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madeirabhoy

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Haha omg are you even serious?

1) if you dont want you screen to turn off while reading - use a setting which has been available since 1.0. Its called Auto-Lock. Set it to never.

2) You think its so simple to implement touch id accuracy into a screen? Why has noone done it to that security level yet? Some companies are trying - and yes - it works but its not as efficient nor as developed yet.

You are no longer just complaining about the practicality of faceid swipe but complaining about not having touchid in a screen yet. How dare technology not keep up with your demands!

Sabotaging your own thread haha this is gold

2 points and neither of them accurate or helpful to the discussion
I didn't say I wanted my phone not to go off, and I didn't complain about not having touch screen on the ID either.
I said when my phone screen goes off, its annoying that its two steps to get it back on again, and that face id which should be a step forward actually makes it slower because of the extra step. I only mention that it could be done without the home button because if I didn't youd have answered saying 'but there's no home button are you really saying you want a home button back!!' and it can be done, as you say other companies have done so already but not very well.

I didn't ask for either of those things, I just asked for the option to face id straight to the home screen or my last app. im not sure if im in the minority or majority for that but even if its a minority I think its a decent sized minority so it would be good if apple gave an option.
 

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2 points and neither of them accurate or helpful to the discussion
I didn't say I wanted my phone not to go off, and I didn't complain about not having touch screen on the ID either.
I said when my phone screen goes off, its annoying that its two steps to get it back on again, and that face id which should be a step forward actually makes it slower because of the extra step. I only mention that it could be done without the home button because if I didn't youd have answered saying 'but there's no home button are you really saying you want a home button back!!' and it can be done, as you say other companies have done so already but not very well.

I didn't ask for either of those things, I just asked for the option to face id straight to the home screen or my last app. im not sure if im in the minority or majority for that but even if its a minority I think its a decent sized minority so it would be good if apple gave an option.
The same type of things have been hashed and rehashed many times over already since over a year ago when Face ID made its first appearance, and it all comes down to the same things in the end: it would be nice if the option for this kind of thing was there so that those who would want could make use of it, but it's not something that is offered so far, and no one knows whether or not Apple might decide to do it at some point in the future.
 
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If I had my pick, I would have it show notifications unless there were none. If I had none it would open to the home screen. That way I see notices, read and clear notices, move on or swipe up to do more. Perhaps I don't want to read them now and swipe up to do more. If I don't need to see a blank screen don't show it to me, just take me home because it should be clear at that point I have nothing to do on that page if its empty. A switch in settings could be ok too I guess.
 

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when your phone is sitting on the table it daftly means that Face ID is actually more hassle than with an old phone and your thumb. as you have to pick up the phone and turn it to your face and then with your other hand swipe up. whereas if you could just lift it to your face and see your home screen or last opened app, it'd be quicker.
But even then you’re not looking at your notifications properly. To interact with one, you’re likely to pick up the phone anyway. Failing that get an angled phone holder.
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If I had my pick, I would have it show notifications unless there were none. If I had none it would open to the home screen. That way I see notices, read and clear notices, move on or swipe up to do more. Perhaps I don't want to read them now and swipe up to do more. If I don't need to see a blank screen don't show it to me, just take me home because it should be clear at that point I have nothing to do on that page if its empty. A switch in settings could be ok too I guess.
I like that idea. Makes you wonder if anyone at Apple actually uses iPhones. It’s simple ergonomics.
 
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Not sure if this is meant to be a frivolous post, but its designed to work that way so you can at least see your notifications.

You can still see your notifications whenever you want while on the home screen, you just swipe down from the top.
 

C DM

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You can still see your notifications whenever you want while on the home screen, you just swipe down from the top.
Seems like the meaning there is more along the lines that if you were to look at your phone just to see the notifications quickly it would instead unlock and essentially hide them so you would need to do something else to access them (rather than just being able to quickly look at your phone as usual).
 

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Thanx god i still own a iphone 7 and touch id gets me straight to home screen. I also hate face id pull up to go to home screen lol. It should be customized.
 

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Unlocking your iPhone is a two step process regardless of whether your using Touch ID or Face ID.

Touch ID:
  • Rest thumb on sensor button to unlock
  • Press button to go to home screen
Face ID:
  • Look at phone to unlock
  • Swipe up to go to home screen
Yes the Touch ID process required about a half-inch less of thumb movement because your thumb is already on the button, but how annoying would it be to have the phone spring to the home screen every time you checked the time? Then you have to re-lock it before it goes back in your pocket.

First world problems...
 

MEJHarrison

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Touch ID:
  • Rest thumb on sensor button to unlock
  • Press button to go to home screen

To be completely fair, I believe on a TouchID phone, you can turn off that second step. I never did, but others did if I'm recalling correctly. The corresponding action can't be disabled on a FaceID device.

That said, I agree with what you have to say. But don't be surprised when others don't. While I can't grasp it myself, it seems to be a fairly big deal if some people are forced to see their lock screen. And they want the option to disable that second step on a FaceID device.
 
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To be completely fair, I believe on a TouchID phone, you can turn off that second step. I never did, but others did if I'm recalling correctly. The corresponding action can't be disabled on a FaceID device.

That said, I agree with what you have to say. But don't be surprised when others don't. While I can't grasp it myself, it seems to be a fairly big deal if some people are forced to see their lock screen. And they want the option to disable that second step on a FaceID device.
Looks like you're right. That could be disabled. I had forgotten that.
But then again you could look at your phone without your thumb on the sensor, so that option makes sense.

I maintain that with FaceID that option would not be user friendly at all and would get annoying fast.

Again, just my $.02
 
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