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No WhatsApp? No Problem – Guest Chats Are Coming
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Apple isn’t spying on you, that’s why you have to pay them.
Spying on you is meta’s entire business model
The reason why I won’t touch it. Zuck is much worse than Google.
I know scammers absolutely love it. Every time a scammer wants to talk it’s can you message me on WhatsApp
Apple paying $95 million in a Siri eavesdropping settlement. Here's how to file a claim.
Look for an email with the subject, "Lopez Voice Assistant Class Action Settlement," which will allow you to make a claim.
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Did Apple's Siri eavesdrop on your call? Find out if eligible for part of $95M settlement
Here's everything you need to know about Lopez v. Apple, the $95 million class action lawsuit that has Siri at the center of it.
www.usatoday.com
Apple paying $95 million in a Siri eavesdropping settlement. Here's how to file a claim.
Look for an email with the subject, "Lopez Voice Assistant Class Action Settlement," which will allow you to make a claim.
Did Apple's Siri eavesdrop on your call? Find out if eligible for part of $95M settlement
Here's everything you need to know about Lopez v. Apple, the $95 million class action lawsuit that has Siri at the center of it.www.usatoday.com
nothing in there says that apple was actually spying on anyone
"Users claimed they saw ads on their phones for specific brands after discussing them aloud, and others said their devices listened to them without them having said anything at all."
people imagine that this happens to them all of the time. thanks to google and meta, advertisers know them better then they know themselves so of course they are going to get targeted ads for the same things they are talking about
no one actually showed that what the lawsuit claimed actually ever happened
I wish Signal would catch on. As things are, my non-American friends and coworkers use WhatsApp and my non-iPhone American friends use sms/rcs. If Apple made an Android iMessage app, they'd probably corner the US market pretty quickly.
So Apple paid 95 million dollars for nothing? You should be their lawyer, would have saved them close to 100 million dollars.
My non-American friends/family use LINE which is even worst that Whatsapp. My American friends insist on using FB Messenger which is worst than both. Signal is great but no one I know uses it.
It clearly is a way to put social pressure on people who aren’t using WhatsApp.
Currently if you don’t want to use WhatsApp you just don’t install it and can forgot about it. People who want to contact you will find another way (something standard that everyone has such as email/phone/SMS). .
With this, you friend/family/colleague will send you a link with an online WhatsApp chat which is annoying for you as this isn’t your application of choice and you won’t have a history of the discussion, and the whole setup will make you seems rude if you refuse to use it.
The idea is probably that after a while such people will eventually get tired of those annoying web chats, relent, and create a WhatsApp account to stop receiving those requests.
they paid 95 million dollars to shoo away a fly. probably less than 1% of their legal budget for a year
either way, no one actually showed that anything happened
At the time I believe it would have been enough just to make iMessage into a cross platform app.
They probably thought that they would be helping Android which seemed short slighted to me. Android was destined to be very relevant just by design. It was unavoidable.
Anyone know the reasoning why WhatsApp don't allow starting a new chat with a non-contact?
so irritating. I know the wa.me url option but should be simple
so irritating. I know the wa.me url option but should be simple
I don‘t know, I’m not using it. But maybe Mark Z. wants to know the name, address AND the phone number…
H.
It forces you to share your contacts with WhatsApp which is a valuable source of data mining for Meta.
Look I'm glad that you're happy using Meta apps; you're certainly not alone in that. But the fact is that WhatsApp is ENTIRELY proprietary, which was your big gripe about iMessage. If using open software is something you care about, as you appear to, then you should use something that is actually open, like XMPP.... definitely not a fully proprietary, obviously data-harvesting app like WhatsApp.
Old news. Very old news. Class action motivated fraud suits. Should we discuss the details of what actually happened?Apple paying $95 million in a Siri eavesdropping settlement. Here's how to file a claim.
Look for an email with the subject, "Lopez Voice Assistant Class Action Settlement," which will allow you to make a claim.
Did Apple's Siri eavesdrop on your call? Find out if eligible for part of $95M settlement
Here's everything you need to know about Lopez v. Apple, the $95 million class action lawsuit that has Siri at the center of it.www.usatoday.com
Sure I agree people should not try to impose a non-standard messaging protocol to others.
But while I obviously have no inside information from WhatsApp I suspect it will work as follows:
You will receive a text message or email saying something along the lines of “Your friend John has sent you a message on WhatsApp. To see their message and continue chatting with John without a WhatsApp account, click on this link”.
So if you want to check-out what they said and see if it is important, you will have to click on the link.
And from your friend’s side, if you just ignore it will show on their WhatsApp App as if they sent you a message and you never replied. Making you come across as rude and/or uninteresting in engaging with them.
This is not a method I endorse to be clear, but I think something like this would be enough to coerce a good number of people who have been resisting WhatsApp into clicking on the links, and eventually create an account as they get tired of using the once-off web chats.
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yeah I just won't click on the link
if I know who it is and have their number I would ask them to text me like a normal person
they can think I'm rude if they want
I don't really understand the point of what's app
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Facebook acquired WhatsApp in 2014, and Apple should’ve done so before that. WhatsApp didn’t have voice calling until 2015, and didn’t have video calling until 2016, so it was never a competitor to FaceTime at the time of acquisition. As for iMessage, Apple could’ve either integrated it into iMessage or left it as a standalone app in order to prevent a much more evil company—especially one as evil as Facebook—from becoming the very top dominant player in the text messaging space.