Nokia Files Brief to Support Apple's Request to Block Sale of Samsung Products

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    As noted by Reuters, Nokia this week filed a brief with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit in support of Apple's bid to block the sale of certain Samsung products previously ruled to have infringed on Apple's patents.

    The brief, which is currently sealed but explained in a summary (via AppleInsider) by Nokia attorney Keith Broyles, argues that Judge Lucy Koh was wrong when she ruled that Apple must establish a "causal nexus" between the patented feature and demand for a product before a permanent injunction request is granted.

    The filing comes several months after Judge Koh had denied Apple's injunction request.

    Nokia's brief wasn't filed specifically to support Apple, but because Nokia feels that Judge Koh's ruling "could cause wide-ranging damage to the United States patent protection landscape." Broyles goes on to argue that Nokia is advocating for patent rights to foster innovation.
    Back in 2009, Apple and Nokia were embroiled in a patent dispute but that ended in 2011 when the two settled and entered into a patent license agreement.

    Nokia is the only company to file in support of Apple, and will have an opportunity for companies and advocacy groups to support its position when it files its own brief later this year.

    Article Link: Nokia Files Brief to Support Apple's Request to Block Sale of Samsung Products
  2. komodrone macrumors 6502

    Apr 26, 2011
    "HAY APPLE, can we be FRIENDS? PLEASEEEEEE????? :D" -Nokia
  3. RoboCop001 macrumors 65816

    Oct 4, 2005
    Toronto, Canada
  4. chineseguy38 macrumors member

    Sep 14, 2012

    Let's take CHEAP brand Samsung out of the market.
  5. japanime macrumors 68000


    Feb 27, 2006
    I'm glad I'm not a patent attorney. Trying to figure out all of these lawsuits gives me a headache. :p
  6. haruhiko macrumors 601


    Sep 29, 2009
    But they also give you a... fortune.
  7. Fatalbert macrumors 6502

    Feb 6, 2013
    I read the title a few times to make sure. This is really weird.

    By the way, I think Nokia should rebrand. Everyone when he hears "Nokia" thinks of either a big old phone or a big old phone that is an indestructible weapon of mass destruction (which is for some reason an Internet meme even though old Nokia phones are pretty darn breakable).

    Also, I was unsure about this patent dispute until the evidence of Samsung's diagrams showing how iPhone features could be implemented in their phones came up. Smoking gun. Totally guilty. I'm with Nokia and Apple on this one.
  8. szw-mapple fan macrumors 65816

    szw-mapple fan

    Jul 28, 2012
    And a shorter lifespan.
  9. MattInOz macrumors 68030


    Jan 19, 2006
    No doubt they keep a "firewall" between different attorneys dealing with different companies. So the Apple Vs Samsung doesn't talk to the the Apple Vs Nokia lawyers, not even to have sushi, so they can talk to the Nokia vs Samsung Lawyer and Samsung vs Nokia respectively.

    Then again would suck to be receptionist there.
  10. iSayuSay macrumors 68030


    Feb 6, 2011
  11. ConCat macrumors 6502a


    Jul 27, 2012
    In an ethereal plane of existence.
    "drink and be merry--for tomorrow, we shall die" - Nokia
  12. Baklava macrumors 6502a


    Feb 1, 2010
  13. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    What? No insinuation that Apple must be paying off Nokia to file? :rolleyes:
  14. iGrip macrumors 68000


    Jul 1, 2010
    If WE did that, it would prove just how important and powerful WE are! Yay for US! WE did it!

    Hmmm...but so far, WE are totally and completely unsuccessful. WE ain't done a damn thing. WE are total and abject failures. WE suck.
  15. dweezle3 macrumors regular


    Jun 11, 2010
    I can see the headlines now: "Apple Rumor Site Forum Congregates to Take Down Technology Mogul Samsung" :D In other news: "DOW Drops 400 Points as Technology Industry Collapses"...
  16. ArtOfWarfare macrumors G3


    Nov 26, 2007
    I think this shows a capacity for Nokia to care about the health of the industry rather than only their own company. If everyone is allowed to copy everyone else, no one bothers to innovate and everyone just makes cheap knock off products. Thus, though Nokia is Apple's competitor, they're willing to back Apple because Samsung is copying them. If Samsung were allowed to do so, innovation would grind to a halt. In the long run, Nokia could stand to benefit if they have their own innovations not yet revealed that they'd like to ensure their competitors don't make knock offs of.

    Plus, having one company back another probably helps the judges realize that one side is in the wrong... - although that could lead to a corrupt form of government, if you simply say one side is right because it has the most companies backing it.
  17. mabhatter macrumors 6502a

    Jan 3, 2009
    Nokia's point would be that Apple has a judgement BY JURY TRIAL. That Samsung infringed.

    How much more does the court need as evidence for stopping Samsung to sell infringing products? Apple went all the way thru the trial process and won, more or less fairly, but the COURT has not granted Apple ANY RELIEF from Samsung selling infringing products, Samsung hasnt paid a single dime of judgement, the court hasn't even made Samsung change or modify anything yet... What is the court WAITING FOR???
  18. Amazing Iceman, Mar 7, 2013
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2013

    Amazing Iceman macrumors 68040

    Amazing Iceman

    Nov 8, 2008
    Florida, U.S.A.
    Exactly. What Nokia is afraid of, is that this Apple judgement by a District Judge could be use as precedent for new trials. If it ends this way, it could start a new batch of trials by other companies, claiming they should get the same treatment as Samsung. It would be a patent chaos.

    Something is definitely not right in all this...
  19. craftytony macrumors regular


    Oct 3, 2012
    Sycamore, IL

    Haven't done a thing?

    Samsung Loses High Court Battle Against Apple In U.K. As Judge Finds Patents Invalid

    Apple Is Top U.S. Smartphone Maker To Start 2013 As Android Loses Marketshare To iOS

    And this is just news from the past couple days :)
  20. Amazing Iceman macrumors 68040

    Amazing Iceman

    Nov 8, 2008
    Florida, U.S.A.
    It's very confusing when other reports show the opposite. It all depends on what are basing their calculations.
    Like with the HP TouchPad, all those units reported as sold were just sitting at Best Buy's shelves, and got later returned to HP.

    Who is on top depends on several factors; it varies, specially before and after the launch of a new product. People either tend to buy or wait for the newer version if the product.

    One thing for sure, Apple is here to stay for a very long time. I just hope they don't mess up.
  21. somethingelsefl macrumors 6502


    Dec 22, 2008
    Tampa, FL
    When all this over...someone better use this patent legal drama as a script for soap opera. Just replace company names with people names...
  22. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    Look up the word sarcasm. The irony. Then re-read his post and yours. See the connection?
  23. Sy7ygy macrumors 6502

    Nov 16, 2012
    Apple is not Samsung.

    You are on the wrong website to support that sort of rubbish, mate.
  24. craftytony macrumors regular


    Oct 3, 2012
    Sycamore, IL
    How bout...I don't look it up. :)

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